Lately i've been doing a lot of reading up on the two standalones i'm considering running in my car; SpeedPro and the DTA P8 pro ECU. Both setups run about the same price. The DTA has many features that the Speedpro doesn't for the same setup : sequential fuel injection, individual cylinder control, vtec engagement, traction control. Plusses of the Speedpro setup are that the software is very user friendly, included wideband 02, and with the new honda harness it's easier to hook up as opposed to the DTA where i would have to rewire most of the wiring harness. The DTA software looks just as usuer friendly, but since it's mainly used in europe, not many people here are familiar with it. If anybody who has used these two systems would give me your input i'd appreciate it.

SpeedPro link : http://www.fuelairspark.com/catalog/banktobank.asp

DTA P8 Pro http://www.dtafast.co.uk/p8pro.htm

TIA



[Modified by blownsi, 8:46 PM 3/18/2002]

 

that DTA is pretty damn intersting. Why dont you jsut go with hondata. I am working with doug on methanol setup with hondata should be pretty nice 8 injectors setup. Cost halfthe money too.

 

Unless you know someone personally who has installed the DTA and can give you a hand doing it, don't do it. Wiring a new harness and investigating all you need to know to install and tune a relatively unkown standalone with no base maps is such a hassle. It takes a long... long time.

 

everyone starts somehwere. I remember when no on had a wiring diagram for the DFI back in the day. now its like common knowledge. just do your research and you shouldnt go wrong.

 

Doing your homework means what? It means many hours of dead ends and trying to get answers from a few people who might know about the system. I installed my own Haltech E6K based on more online help than I can find for DTA. Yes, it was a learning experience, but I'd rather not go through that kind of thing again. Go ahead, if you don't mind doing this stuff, but just because people have figured out these things in the past, doesn't mean you want to be the one to do it yourself when there are other options.

Why don't you just get the AEM EMS which offers these features as well and is guaranteed to have alot of support behind it, or if you really want to be cheap get a used E6K which offers most of those features and there's people here who could step you through the install.

 

if it matters, i'm selling a speed pro bank2bank with honda harness & wideband o2 for like $1650

 

I'd go with either Hondata or the AEM setup, but i don't like the fact that i could only use it on a honda. With the DTA, i could rewire it to be used on another car if need be. I'm getting a lot of help from Chris at Tapp auto and he's helping me figure out the DTA. He's used it and tuned it, but he's not local so that is a little problem.

 

As long as you have someone with experience with it, you should be fine.

The AEM is all the same ECU, just using the different connector. If you really wanted to move it to a different car, you could just cut a honda wiring harness and use that to wire in the other car, or just cut the connector off and solder in your own wires. Then all you would need is the base maps for the new car. Or buy the race version which has the flying lead harness for a little more money.

 

The DTA is a true race car (not just drag race) fuel management system. I have seen it used on many *real* (not honda) race cars and all those who have experience with it have been very happy. Some info on it was in a recent issue of RACECAR Engineering.

For the money, your time, and the capabilities, if you have a honda, use a hondata. It really is the best system out there for the price capabilities and simplicity. Honda did a great job and hondata lets us use the capabilities.

 

Wow this board moves fast. I've been talking with Chris at Tapp Auto and he's been a great help. I've tinkered around the software and it's very easy to navigate and make changes to different settings. Looks like the hardest thing to worry about if i went with the DTA would be wiring it up to my stock harness. But it looks like from there, the DTA would be a very nice ECU to work with.

 

I have been trying to research on the Speedpro for my civic..
I looking for a standalone to run w/ a Drag gen 3.

Anyone with one care to share some info?
Thx.

 

Serge from Altech are running DTA this year, it was easier to install than the DFI they say and they loose the weight of the MSD 7AL and Coil cause apparently the DTA handles those chores also.

 

I'm installing the DTA in my GSR turbo... My friend is about to install one in his turbo ITR... seems to be a really good standalone
Cant'wait to try it

 

Meanteg...who did you buy it from and where are you getting the tech support from?

 

http://www.tracracing.com, I work there. Got the E48 EXP it in stock and ready to ship.