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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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might be a dumb question but if u had one choice to either put sleeves or getting forged pistons and rods..what would you do...?? flame away ppl
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (hbkxtbone)

i would go sleves since you can add pistons a lot easier later
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (hbkxtbone)

I agree with hbkxtbone, sleeve the block first and wait on the pistons and rods.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (SAMStudent)

Depends on what you're doing with the engine....sleeves aren't always needed nor is forged pistons and rods. What's your inteded use/set up?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (00Red_SiR)

i just wanna boost to about 15 lbs max
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (hbkxtbone)

At that boost level max you should be fine with just forged pistons and rods and maybe a block guard as long as the car will have decent TUNING. If you were mainly racing the car, sleeves would be a safer way to go but for street and strip use, what I said should be fine.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (00Red_SiR)

True, but if you are going to use a good quality
forged piston(JE, SRP, Weisco,etc.), you will have
to use a ductile iron sleeve.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (SAMStudent)

Maybe you should wait and get all three at the same time... saves a lot of work ahead of time, money also..
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (SAMStudent)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SAMStudent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True, but if you are going to use a good quality
forged piston(JE, SRP, Weisco,etc.), you will have
to use a ductile iron sleeve.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying since the stock cylinder sleeves are ductile iron and you certainly don't need to sleeve a block to run forged aftermarket pistons.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (00Red_SiR)

wtf this is for turbo! i was right...

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Modified by ceLtic at 2:57 AM 2/14/2005
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (00Red_SiR)

The stock sleeves in the b series Honda blocks aren't ductile iron. They are cast iron, but you are right in that you can run aftermarket enternals in a block with stock sleeves. Eventually you will want to sleeve it though. I think you ought to sleeve it first cause I have personally seen too many blocks come in our facility with cracked stock sleeves. Some are salvageable and some are not. Just do it right the first time and you wont have to worry about it.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (hbkxtbone)

are u talkiong about sleeving your block and using stock internals? and then possibly upgrading later to forged? thats alota money in labor.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:14 AM
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Default Re: sleeves or pistons and rods (ERL Performance)

Yes the sleeves are iron everyone knows that. John was saying that JE and Endyn both recommend that you run their pistons in Ductile Iron.

Bobby Snyder
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