RODS ? WTF!!
06-17-2005, 09:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abnaasefmb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just some numbers out of the months honda tuning.
from the pic it looks like there is way more than 1mm diff.
b16a=137mm
b18a1,b20b4=137mm
b18c=138mm
b17=131.9mm
h22=143mm
h23=141.5mm
k20=139mm
k24=152mm
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The B16A rods are 5.290" or 134.366mm just that one correction.
This whole deal is FUBAR!!! You sure those are the stock B20 rods? You don't have a B20A do you?
from the pic it looks like there is way more than 1mm diff.
b16a=137mm
b18a1,b20b4=137mm
b18c=138mm
b17=131.9mm
h22=143mm
h23=141.5mm
k20=139mm
k24=152mm
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The B16A rods are 5.290" or 134.366mm just that one correction.
This whole deal is FUBAR!!! You sure those are the stock B20 rods? You don't have a B20A do you?
06-18-2005, 01:39 AM
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just by looking at the deck its obviously decked (you can tell from the coolant holes from the block gaurd installed and you cant machine a block guard that smooth with out a decking plate.) and considering your using the stock rods that would be your end result. like earl said, source a good crank/rod setup that will work. 
06-18-2005, 03:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syner-G-Racing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just by looking at the deck its obviously decked (you can tell from the coolant holes from the block gaurd installed and you cant machine a block guard that smooth with out a decking plate.) and considering your using the stock rods that would be your end result. like earl said, source a good crank/rod setup that will work. </TD></TR></TABLE>
did u even read this post?
thats a DART block, not some piece of **** blockgaurd
</TD></TR></TABLE>did u even read this post?
thats a DART block, not some piece of **** blockgaurd
06-18-2005, 05:02 AM
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Re: RODS ? WTF!! (fknfast)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fknfast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was like WTF.... maybe it is the tall deck dart?? i checked and the box said std 226mm dart b20 so thats that.
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226 mm deck height is in fact a talldeck block, 212 mm is the regular B series deck height. I have one myself so I'm 100% sure on this, your block IS a talldeck.
And 5.394" rod lenght is B18B/B20 so that one is as ordered, but what stroke crank do you have in there? And it's all fucked up if you ordered a standard deck height block, because that you don't have
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226 mm deck height is in fact a talldeck block, 212 mm is the regular B series deck height. I have one myself so I'm 100% sure on this, your block IS a talldeck.
And 5.394" rod lenght is B18B/B20 so that one is as ordered, but what stroke crank do you have in there? And it's all fucked up if you ordered a standard deck height block, because that you don't have
06-18-2005, 07:54 AM
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Re: RODS ? WTF!! (fknfast)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fknfast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what explains the rod length difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>The pix you posted is definitely the tall block.
Say you were to cut 9/16" off the top of your block. Would you then say you had the right sized rods and crank in that motor?
The point is that your Manleys are the correct length for what they were made for...a normal sized block.
Say you were to cut 9/16" off the top of your block. Would you then say you had the right sized rods and crank in that motor?
The point is that your Manleys are the correct length for what they were made for...a normal sized block.
06-18-2005, 08:59 AM
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Re: RODS ? WTF!! (earl)
figured out the problem........
thanks for all the help everyone.
my brain is fried to all hell.lol
i need stoker rods / pistons
i guess ill see if this whole stoker dart thing really works when i boost it to 9k and make huge HP hopefully.. ill keep yea posted
thanks for all the help everyone.
my brain is fried to all hell.lol
i need stoker rods / pistons
i guess ill see if this whole stoker dart thing really works when i boost it to 9k and make huge HP hopefully.. ill keep yea posted
06-18-2005, 09:57 AM
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Re: RODS ? WTF!! (fknfast)
It's stroker, not stoker.
If you want more displacement to spool a bigger turbo you need a longer crankshaft. Different rods and pistons have no bearing on the displacement of your motor.
If you want more displacement to spool a bigger turbo you need a longer crankshaft. Different rods and pistons have no bearing on the displacement of your motor.
06-18-2005, 10:04 AM
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Re: RODS ? WTF!! (Chip)
This Eagle rod will be your friend
CRS5967A3D 5.967" special length for Honda B-series engines with deck extensions. Also used in Dart B20+ block.
CRS5967A3D 5.967" special length for Honda B-series engines with deck extensions. Also used in Dart B20+ block.
06-18-2005, 11:39 AM
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Re: RODS ? WTF!! (95GSRTT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wasnt aware that a bigger bore piston wouldnt affect your displacement 
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When we're not talking about changing bore size it doesn't.
</TD></TR></TABLE>When we're not talking about changing bore size it doesn't.
06-18-2005, 11:50 AM
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Re: (earl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the rod to the right is an oem s2000, haha, no comparison can be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the real question is this.... how would he confuse an s2k rod for a b20 rod.
also, who's dizzy are you running. that looks like an msd, but it looks nothing like the msd dizzy for the hondas.
the real question is this.... how would he confuse an s2k rod for a b20 rod.
also, who's dizzy are you running. that looks like an msd, but it looks nothing like the msd dizzy for the hondas.
06-19-2005, 07:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the real question is this.... how would he confuse an s2k rod for a b20 rod.
also, who's dizzy are you running. that looks like an msd, but it looks nothing like the msd dizzy for the hondas.
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i deal with s2000s all day at work and i never bothered to look at the part # on the rod. DOH
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the real question is this.... how would he confuse an s2k rod for a b20 rod.
also, who's dizzy are you running. that looks like an msd, but it looks nothing like the msd dizzy for the hondas.
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i deal with s2000s all day at work and i never bothered to look at the part # on the rod. DOH
accel dfi dual sync
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