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Old 04-29-2003, 04:10 PM
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Which turbo is better for a GSR setup????? Which turbo is bigger?? Specs please if anyone has them???? Oh I'm sleeving the block also.

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Old 04-29-2003, 05:15 PM
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usually u can tell them which turbo u prefer. but if your getting a kit, i'd go with the revhard 2c kit. their manifolds are better then drag..b/c theres no boost creep. the 2c comes with a t3/04e..also make sure u get a tial wastegate.
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (SpoolnG2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoolnG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> their manifolds are better then drag..b/c theres no boost creep. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When exactly does this boost creep occur?
I have had a DRAG manifold for so long and never had a problem with it.
Turbo runs and works fine, deltagate works fine.
Granted I want a better wastegate, so I am in line for the Betagate when it is released.

But what makes the manifold superior?
Frankly I have seen both and there is no huge difference IMO.

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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (psi420)

Rev Har 2C comes with:

Precision SC Turbo Charger
26x6.5x3 Intercooler
Turbosmart 35mm Wastegate
Manifold will support serious power.

That's why I pick Rev Hard.
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (RyanAutry)

well one my friends had a drag 3 and it ran good put down good ets, everyone i know has had drag 3, but me i ordered rev hard stage 2c for my ls. if i had a gsr i would say REV HARD
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (turbolsteg)

my budddy has a drag manifold and has mad boost creep up top. i'm just telling u from mine and my friends' experiences. thats all
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (SpoolnG2)

Thanx guys.
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does anyone have revhard 2c dyno graphs??i was wondering if that supports 500whp easily like the full race?? hehe and does the rev hard kit come with DIY pipe?or fitted?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GOLDBERG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone have revhard 2c dyno graphs??i was wondering if that supports 500whp easily like the full race?? hehe and does the rev hard kit come with DIY pipe?or fitted?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It will do 500whp with the right turbo and wastegate.

But I doubt you will see 500whp with a 35mm wastegate, even though the turbosmart is supposed to be able to support 600hp.

The Precision that comes with the kit won't support 500whp either. But you can exchange it for a SC61 for no extra cost. Then it will make 500whp.

We already know the manifold will support the power, since motormatrix made 565whp on a rev hard log manifold.
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (RyanAutry)

Atleast the Rev Hard is 50/50 equal length and the welds look half way decent. I have two friends, one with a Rev Hard 2 on an Si and the other with a Drag 3 on an LS. The Drag manifold has 4 totally unequal length runners. They just appear cheaply made. Both come with bolt on intercooler piping no DIY kit like the Max-Rev. I'd say rev-hard but both need Tial 35mm, 440's and Hondata for street just ditch the fmu.
Old 04-29-2003, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (RyanAutry)

how does the wastegate affect HP #'s??????/ also you forgot to mention that the 565hp was made on 26+psi WITH NOS.... with the fullrace he made 529?@22psi with NO nos..
Old 04-29-2003, 10:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GOLDBERG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how does the wastegate affect HP #'s??????.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dunno? I've never seen a 35mm wastegate on a 500+whp Honda.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GOLDBERG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also you forgot to mention that the 565hp was made on 26+psi WITH NOS.... with the fullrace he made 529?@22psi with NO nos..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why would I have to mention that? What does that have to do with anything?

oh btw, MM didn't make 565whp on nitrous.
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (RyanAutry)

oh really??was it 556 then?? haha..funny he told me he did like 2-3 times tonight... during IM's and PM's...
Old 04-30-2003, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (GOLDBERG)

on a side note.... I've had the revhard manifold for about 3 years now and so signs of cracks on the manifold. Now my little bro is running my manifold. Just thought I would throw that in there
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if you want a revhard i will get you the best price youll find
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Default Re: Revhard or Drag 3??? (mini-cRx)

i have a drag manifold on my car too. i dont see any boost creep , i might see some cracking on it but i havent lost any power. what exactly is boost creep? doesnt that have something to do with the wastegate? cause i have the tial so no problems there
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How much boost are you running?
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6.5 psi,

13.5@102
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