AB16A2T

Swap in a B18B or rebuild my D16Y8?

Smashback

For the same amount of money the D16 is going to allow you to run more boost safely (a lot more than a stock B18 will take) and make plenty more power. If money is falling out of your ***, get a B18C swap, build it, AND turbo it. Oh yeah, NAWS too....two bottles wouldn't hurt!

AB16A2T

LoL, no unfortunetely I don't have a lot of money. I wish I did. I can get a B18B COMPLETE swap for $2700.

Smashback

And see, you can probably sleeve your block and get all forged guts for less than that. Depending on your turbo you should be able to get at LEAST 350 WHP out of a built D16, whereas you'll probably max out around 250 on a stock B18B.

See on the B18B you'd want a GSR tranny and probably a ported head and better intake like a Skunk2, which adds to the overall cost, plus a new turbo mani and modified piping if you're already turbo.

EDIT: Ah, looks like you're not turbo yet anyway!


[Modified by mplex2000, 6:51 AM 8/24/2002]

AB16A2T

I will be soon, well as soon as I get my damn engine taken care of...

Smashback

If it ain't one thing it's another. I had planned on having mine on by last July, but then the garage door on my house fell apart, and that was only the beginning...needless to say it did not happen as planned. It took me until December to finally get it on there!

AB16A2T

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mntdewred

Sell your B18B and build the D16 to no end. You'll be happy when you beat some domestic punk with only a 1.6L SOHC engine.

I, as well as others, are putting everything (well mostly everything) into that D16.

Good Luck!

00civicvtec

Rebuild your D16Y8, that's what I'm doing

And D-series OEM parts are MUCH cheaper than B-series parts, so the rebuild doesn't cost that much.

lazy bum shaughn

I think that's way too much. I can get the whole swap for $1200.

mntdewred

But then whats the point of rebuilding the d16 with oem parts? if he is going FI, he definately doesnt want OEM rods and pistons. He might get away with an OEM valvetrain but not for high amounts of boost.

Aftermarket parts are going to get costly, but B-series parts do cost more than D-series when regarding aftermartket. Any path you choose to follow, it will leave a hole in your pocket.

AB16A2T

heh, no OEM parts for my pistons etc. I am most definetely going to need stronger rods, better pistons, stronger valvetrain etc for what I am looking to do.

AB16A2T

A whole swap? Where? Does it include ECU, tranny, axels, piping, intake manifold, headers, throttle body, tranny mounts, engine mounts, etc?

00civicvtec

Well, how much are you wanting to boost? D16 internals are stronger than people give them credit for, as for me I'm using stock Y8 pistons, LS rods, ACL bearings, ARP head studs and rod bolts, and the rest OEM and I will be running 12psi daily.

mntdewred

I'm not saying it can't be done, but I would rather have Peace of Mind than worry about something going wrong with stock parts.

And I would love to see you drive 12psi daily with no problems. Good luck mang!

00civicvtec

There are many people on the board that do....hell, the FMax kit boosts 15psi on a stock D16Y8...

I'll be running very rich, dyno-tuned, and a MSD 6BTM to retard timing under boost, plus I'm building the engine with my own 2 hands, so I KNOW it is done right.

Peace

AB16A2T

I am going to be doing most of the work on my engine, the only things I won't be doing is porting polishing and all machine work. I am looking to boost 12-14 PSI daily, so stock internals won't cut it. It is one thing when you only do it every once in a while but when you want it daily, stock won't cut it, any ideas for a good turbo cam?

redteg1

this is such a no brainer question man. go wit the ls motor. 1.8 poops on those d16s. after that just boost it

AB16A2T

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SOHC_power

build it dude, that's what i'm doin. check out www.jgenginedynamics.com $2500 and run 20psi all day long....well maybe not 20, but the d16 sleeved will withstand up to 30psi. you can run enough boost to kick any b series *** you want. and when you pop the hood, all they is that little SOHC.

EDIT: oh not to put down on b series, don't want to **** anyone off,
i am just excited to see support for the SOHC lately


[Modified by SOHC_power, 2:12 PM 8/27/2002]


[Modified by SOHC_power, 2:15 PM 8/27/2002]

00civicvtec

I've seen posted d16 blocks hold 20-25psi daily and drag cars.

What you have to worry about on the D-series motors is the weak transmission and axels...a Quaife diff and driveshaftshop.com axels put a fix to that thou

I've got a spare D16 block that I thought about posting and putting some JEs and eagles into to boost 20psi, but I think I am just going to start working on a B-series after I get this motor finished, but who knows.