Hello , fairly new to this board as well as to the force induction game .....I have a 2000 integra type r and plan to go with a turbo set up . The motor is out of the car now and in the process of being torn down and the shop im dealing with is awaiting my decision on what parts to use .
After researching the subject this is what ive come up with .
Block to be sleeved by golden eagle and bored to 84mm
Arias pistons with 9.5:1 comp ratio
eagle rods along with my stock crank
upgraded tial wastegate
Drag gen 111 kit with a turbonetics t04e 57 trim .63 ar
rc 440 injectors
hondatas200b
plan to use stock head and valve train

I guess im just looking for any knowledgable suggestions on the set up before i buy or if there might be anything ive overlooked . After researching the subject it seems many ppl have many diff ideas on what is ideal so im still sorta baffled on the whole thing ...
The main goal of this car is streetable , with a little bit of track time and a little bit of drag thrown in but first and foremost this will be a weekend street car.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated
Any guesses as to whp #s?? amt of safe boost the motor should be capable of ?
im in canada so i get 94 pump gas

Thanks in advance

 

use the upgraded ARP rod bolts if you plan to go eagle rods, but i would avoid the eagles all togeather if you could afford it.

That combo of parts looks fine though.

 

Don't listen to him Eagle rods are fine!

 

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Agreed, I have a good amount of miles on my eagle rods with zero complaints. But as with anything, you abuse it long enough they will wear. But there is nothing wrong with eagle rods.

Rob

 

is it still advisable to use the upgraded arp bolts ? oh and what headgasket would be best for my application ?

 

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If you're going to run eagles, run the arp studs! For headgasket use a stock gasket bored or a stock thickness cometic.

 

scared me for a minute about that eagle rod, I thought they the best, anyway eagle comes with arp bolt, or is it head studs you recomending?

 

My Eagle rods came with ARP bolts! Weird!

 

All Eagles come with ARP bolts, it's the size of the bolt that makes a difference.

 

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Whoever said size doesn't matter? No really though, if you get the Eagles make sure you get the larger bolts and I think you will be fine.

-Ryan

 

Crower

Eagle makes a damn good rod though

you can't go wrong with ARP. Just think of their bolts and studs and nuts as added safety. head studs aren't but a hundred bucks or so, why not upgrade them while your at it....

-Erik

 

Dont forget to get some arp head studs too.

And also shouldnt you go with something bigger than 440cc? Maybe you should consider something in the lines of 600-800cc? Thats if you plan on boosting high tho. From the looks of your described setup, you are looking for some high hp numbers.

 

i wouldn't think the injector size would be a problem. sounds like he wants good reliable streetable power and the sleeves were an added safety, not necessarily to run insane boost. i could be wrong. 550's are as common as any size though, 600-800 seems overkill. but i dunno what he really wants so.... i'm probably wrong.

-Erik

 

I meant that they already come with 3/8 arp studs I did not know they have an optional upgraded 1/2 stud. but 3/8 should still be good, after all its ARP.

 

i would say go larger injector. imo it's better to have too much fuel and just tune it down then not have enoung and blow a motor. Also just incase u ever get a little boost crazy and bump the boost up to 20 for a race you'll know your fuel system can handle it?

 

The big question: what power do WANT to make?
You have to have a goal before you build so that you know what you need to do to reach that goal.
I recommend bigger injectors with that turbo, maybe something in the 650cc range. Sleeved block with pistons and rods should be good for 400-500HP at high boost. Are you going to run slicks? if so you will need some beefy adxles and a real clutch (exedy or OS giken twin plate). Also, what are you going to do for engine management?
Stock headgasket should be fine, or you can go to a cometic or something.
There is a shitload of other stuff to worry about besides what rod bolts to use...

 

wow !! thanks for all the input so far everyone ......as for why im doing all of this (sleeving of the block and such) is because somthing let go in the bottom end i think rod bearing . I already am running a jrsc but have decided to go with a turbo set up so since its gotta come apart i might as well upgrade .

I already have the rc 440 and a hondata s200b which i plan on utilizing for my fuel management . My "whp" goal was really not in question but if i had to throw out a number ......350 to the wheels would be nice .
Is this possible with my setup ? are the injectors too small ? ( i thought with larger injectors it might not idle properly )

Another question , what if i were to use the stock injectors but plumb the rc440 as secondarys ? would that be feasable ?

i have an exedy clutch waiting to go into the car as well .

 

man, just run those injectors and IF when you are tuning they aren't big enough, 550's would be more than enough for sure.

stock axles are fine, an exedy clutch is adequate. you aren't lacking much at all. nice setup man.

-Erik

 

ok cool ....at least i know im on the right track ....now to mix things up a little .....should i run the 9.5 comp ratio or a lower ratio ? ive been reading and once again im confused , some say 8.5-9.1 and some say 10.1 is better .....i can see the arguement on both sides but still unclear as to what would be proper for my set up.

From what i can gather the reason for running 10.1 would be better off boost drivability and better power , but if im going to a 84 mm bore which would effectively make my motor a 2ltr , would this make better power in off boost situations anyways ? therefore perhaps for me i should run a lower comp ratio such as 8.5 or 9.1 ??

Arggh the more i research the more confused i get ....please keep the comments coming ....thanks again guys

 

oh and another thing , what is the maximum hp efficiency of this particular turbo i plan on using ?

 

i can't answer much here but i can say you will have to run a lot more boost with a lower cr to make the same power as a higher cr engine would. i'm sure you know that and we both know the sleeves will hold it but... the turbo will have to work harder and your fuel needs are going to increase drastically. i'd run 9.x:1 if i had to do it again.

-Erik

 

my car idled perfect with 880cc injectors

 

what sort of fuel management set up were you using ? and what will the rc 440 support in terms of hp ? ( nobody did answer my ? of utilizing the stock injectors but plumbing the 440s as secondary injectors )