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Please STFU. You are making a complete fool out of yourself defending this guy. Get off his nuts and go find something better to do. CNC port has an account here why can't he get on here? Let me guess, he's to busy porting heads. STFU and get a life. I would love to hear the negative stuff you supposedly heard about miller you expletiveing toolbag. </TD></TR></TABLE>


^nut hugger lol

 

O yeah Miller
I will buy back B N's cylinder head from him if it doesn't make the power he wanted, even though I had to Heli-Coil 10 threads in that head. I just don't want the valvetrain, u or him can keep that.

This was the Dirtiest head I have ever recieved and hence had to take a picture of it before we did any work.

Yes, its not acceptable if it was dirty. I accept that, I am always willing to make right a wrong.

Check out this pic..

 

I think this was the head that was Spray Painted Silver, now that I look at the pics closer. Interesting...

Before


After CNC'd -No Guides,Not Decked Yet or VJ


Briefly Washed After CNC'd -No Guides, Not Decked Yet or VJ

 

Keep the flaming/BS to a minimum unless you guys want to love privileges. If Jason doesn't post in here... it's probably because he's busy looking at ****

Jason stays busy... and it looks like he is smart enough to stay away from arguing on the internet. Ok... back on the topic.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joseph Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Completely incorrect.

Examine a fuel injector spray pattern sometime.

Examine the geometry of a head port on one of these engines sometime.

Examine what a few thousand dyno pulls per a several hundred EFI tuners across the country for the last 20 years has established as what does and what does not work. You know - the guys with their eyes open?

We aren't dealing with direct inject engines in this forum. We aren't dealing with some of the 911 turbo engines that had injectors aimed at the back faces of the intake valves so that fuel could be sprayed on them between intake valve/main injector events to cool them. We are dealing with D's and B's, F's and H's, and K's. Introducing a crosshatched - or rippled, in the case of these CNC heads - finish into the intake port is a really freaking good idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I never said that the CNC work to the intake ports on our heads was a bad idea! Hell i've got a CNC'd head to go on my dart block. But you might wanna re-visit some of the things that you've mentioned above. Or maybe you just didn't understand my origional post. I've done extensive research on this subject and the direction that our honda injectors are angled & the distance that they are from the combustion chamber is so insanly close to the responce time of motors that have direct injection that the difference un-noticable in real world applications.

Some vehicles do a very poor job at fuel injection & things such as efficency & responce is not near what honda has accomplished.

So yes, the porting by CNC is a huge gain in flow, but what i was trying to say earlier that may have gotten confused is that, many people are saying that you can't smooth out the intake manifold or throttle boddies or the runners on the intake manifolds becuase the turbulance helps to atomize the fuel, but in our situation, the injectors do such a good job already, & the way that the our air ends up in the cylinders, you don't need to worry about keeping things as rough as the old carberated vehicles.

 

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I never said that the CNC work to the intake ports on our heads was a bad idea! Hell i've got a CNC'd head to go on my dart block. But you might wanna re-visit some of the things that you've mentioned above. Or maybe you just didn't understand my origional post. I've done extensive research on this subject and the direction that our honda injectors are angled & the distance that they are from the combustion chamber is so insanly close to the responce time of motors that have direct injection that the difference un-noticable in real world applications.

Some vehicles do a very poor job at fuel injection & things such as efficency & responce is not near what honda has accomplished.

So yes, the porting by CNC is a huge gain in flow, but what i was trying to say earlier that may have gotten confused is that, many people are saying that you can't smooth out the intake manifold or throttle boddies or the runners on the intake manifolds becuase the turbulance helps to atomize the fuel, but in our situation, the injectors do such a good job already, & the way that the our air ends up in the cylinders, you don't need to worry about keeping things as rough as the old carberated vehicles. </TD></TR></TABLE>

fluid dynamics...take it and youll understand alot more

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Running925 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I never said that the CNC work to the intake ports on our heads was a bad idea! Hell i've got a CNC'd head to go on my dart block. But you might wanna re-visit some of the things that you've mentioned above. Or maybe you just didn't understand my origional post. I've done extensive research on this subject and the direction that our honda injectors are angled & the distance that they are from the combustion chamber is so insanly close to the responce time of motors that have direct injection that the difference un-noticable in real world applications.

Some vehicles do a very poor job at fuel injection & things such as efficency & responce is not near what honda has accomplished.

So yes, the porting by CNC is a huge gain in flow, but what i was trying to say earlier that may have gotten confused is that, many people are saying that you can't smooth out the intake manifold or throttle boddies or the runners on the intake manifolds becuase the turbulance helps to atomize the fuel, but in our situation, the injectors do such a good job already, & the way that the our air ends up in the cylinders, you don't need to worry about keeping things as rough as the old carberated vehicles. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I repeat, you are completely wrong and your baseless claims are annoying.

The average WOT injector event lasts longer than the intake event, meaning that the Honda IM is a wet intake manifold not dissimilar to a carb intake. Fuel atomization for most larger than stock injectors flat out suck, so your comparison of a dinky Honda runner-injected setup to a direct-to-the-freaking-combustion-chamber at higher than 41 psig pressure all the way up to 500+ bar fuel pressure for the high pressure flavors of DI... is an apples to orangutans comparison, dude.


You have done extensive research on absolutely nothing. Do you have an injector test bench? No, you don't, but I do. I have for going on four years now.


I repeat:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joseph Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Examine a fuel injector spray pattern sometime.

Examine the geometry of a head port on one of these engines sometime.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

fluid dynamics...take it and youll understand alot more </TD></TR></TABLE>

And you'll want to slit your wrists, lol.

The only thing fun in that class were the labs.