ITR9788

I am considering the SC61 for my 97 ITR, GE sleeved 1.8L, Arias 9.1 pistons, Crower rods. Goal is 400whp on the street with Inlinepro mani, 3" DP to 3"exhasut, Skunk2 IM, Precision Intercooler, and Hondata 4b. I have seen a few success stories. Does anyone else have any input? Thanks.

MotorMatrix.com

The sc61 is one of the most efficient well made turbos out right now. With new Gt technlology it is said to be yrs ahead of other turbos. also, the price compared to a lower quality turbonetics cant be beat.

djdxm

SC61 is a awesome turbo, PTE does a awesome job on them. I cant wait to use it. I have the T04S compressor and T4 turbine side, hopeing to see what she can put out.

tony1

400whp will come VERY easily with the sc61!

ITR9788

Thanks. I am ordering next week. Cant wait. Anyone else?

pissedoffsol

mine will be here soon
i looked around for a long time... about a year... and finially, i went with the sc61. best choice IMO for a built up motor looking for 350-550+

InfamousRS

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I love mine!!! (even though its still sitting in the box ) Someday it will work wonders on my car!

SiBirdie

I was wondering will a sc61 be to big for a built b16 block with a 9.5:1 ? if not when will it reach full boost and what trim and a/r should i get for the b16 block.

thanx

AbaZ

I'm getting one, once my t3/t4 dies

Rod Short

I'd say it would be a very good choice for making quick runs over to Virginia Beach and for cruising up & down Atlantic Blvd. You may enjoy opening it up when you're heading on I-64 West towards Richmond. Life is short. Go full boost.

Rod Short
Sales Manager
Precision Turbo

tx99gsr

hey rod can you set up a groupbuy or get us somekind of deal on these babys?

Dublocivic

Who would want to sit on atl blvd with an sc61..? hehe no where to spool that bad boy around there without being arrested. Hit about 20lbs in the tunnel.. just make sure that you add a little extra fuel because you are below sea level

Quick 200k Mile Motor

Post plots on the SC61 map
I need help..
still can't figure out why everyone wants to go with the SC61, and why its very efficient for a 1.8liter. Even with 2 liter disp, it seems a T04E would be more efficient (lands in the 78-80% range).. with the SC61 it would land in the 74%.

AVATAR

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Holy Mother that would be a gold mine. . .anyone . . .

93LSivic

Are you guys retarded or something? Seriously?

For the price of them only being 750ish and the performance you get from it why would you bitch and complain about the price? Years ago you would have to pay 1000+ to get the performance out of a turbo of this caliber.....sheesh

djdxm

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It is a T04E unless you specifiy a T04S. It has a GT compressor wheel instead of a older technology (60-1). What are you comparing it to? I would like to see where you are getting this, just curious.

jay

SiRkid

cfm....hmmmmm

Quick 200k Mile Motor

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There is the option of going with the T04E or T04S <u>housing</u>, but I was thinking about the compressor wheels. The type of housing will also change the map.

I need to verify two things:
Was the SC61 map on Precision's site from testing it with the T04S .70 a/r housing?
Which free software program is best for plotting on Garret maps? Some are set to plot on Turbonetics maps (like the turbofast.com.au ?).

I'm using the following:
BlueSi2k
Turbofast.com.au
TurboRegalCalc.xls (excel format)

I got different results from each. When I use the Turbo Regal one, SC61 is at its best efficiency on a 2 liter above 14psi. Boost any lower, and it will drop out toward the lower left.
The other programs have lower corrected air flows, which makes the SC61 seem too BIG, and only good for 2.1-2.2 liter.

Flamenco-T

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There is the option of going with the T04E or T04S <u>housing</u>, but I was thinking about the compressor wheels. The type of housing will also change the map.

I need to verify two things:
Was the SC61 map on Precision's site from testing it with the T04S .70 a/r housing?
Which free software program is best for plotting on Garret maps? Some are set to plot on Turbonetics maps (like the turbofast.com.au ?).

I'm using the following:
BlueSi2k
Turbofast.com.au
TurboRegalCalc.xls (excel format)

I got different results from each. When I use the Turbo Regal one, SC61 is at its best efficiency on a 2 liter above 14psi. Boost any lower, and it will drop out toward the lower left.
The other programs have lower corrected air flows, which makes the SC61 seem too BIG, and only good for 2.1-2.2 liter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude, you think too much...seriously, you can't never have everything you want, you can have more of one thing but you will have to sacrifice on the other factors. That's with anything, the SC 61 just give you lesser sacrifice.

I ran this on the street, so are a coupel other guys that I know personally, and truthfully, it is so easy to make power with this turbo, I have never seen any turbo as efficient as the SC61 and practical on the street.

My $.02 is, stop thinking too much, and Keep It Simple Stupid

stan

SiRkid

*cough* garrett gt's

Flamenco-T

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*cough* expenive lol.. I like Garrett GT series, but damn, they're so expensive, they're disposable ( FYI, ball bearing turbo are not rebuildable), and for the price difference I can make more power than being able to spools up a lil bit quicker.

when you started to rev higher, aggresive cams, and the difference in power band makes a difference between going in to fifth or staying up till top of fourth in a quarter and the extra quick spools up time helps, go for it.


stan

Quick 200k Mile Motor

ok, I didn't need to see that, but thanks for your opinion. Let me go, I just want to see <u>facts</u> instead of following hype: "ran this on the street, so are a coupel other guys that I know personally, and truthfully, it is so easy to make power with this turbo, I have never seen any turbo as efficient as the SC61 and practical on the street." hahaha! sounds like hype to me

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go out and have your cigarette..

Did you run T04E or T04S housing?
I think there is a difference, or am I thinking too much?

Flamenco-T

374 on 9 psi
414 on 13 psi
376 on 13 psi

all on pump gas, all on GS-R motor, any questions ?

I have been in this world for a while, I turboed my first car before any kit even came out, all I am saying is you can look at facts all day long, but go out, drive one turbo car, I don't care if it's SC 34 or SC63, either will blow your mind. Most of the guys I know that talk theory never even have or even ride in a turbo hondas. I am not flaming on you, I am just suggesting you to look at it in practical way. I know all about compressor maps, but I hardly talk about them, it's more than just maps to make your car fast for the street, it takes a lot other factors from gearing, tranny, and etc.

Ride in a 400 HP integra with SC61, compressor maps is useless after that point.

stan

PS: I will have my cigarette

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

To futher describe on what stan is saying.

Strictly following compressor maps will leave you behind the curve just as much as following the hype. If you look back into the history of the turbo honda, you see guys who went up and beyond common practice and tried things, like the T3/T4, like a 60-1, like a T66. Look at a 60-1 map, it hardly looks good on any honda motor but it makes power. It looks good on the dyno and on the time slips, that is what counts to me.

Its year 2003 and compressor wheels have not changed much since back in the 60's and 70's but the GT40 in the SC61 is the new "hot ****". Hype aside, it can flow close to 65lbs/min, its up to 80% efficient, and it can push upwards of 2.4 bar. Garret made alot of advancements in this wheel that allows it to spool faster, flow more, run higher boost, and be more efficient then wheels of the 60's/70's.

All stan is trying to say by KISS is go with what works. SC61 has been proven now. Here are the threads Stan posted #'s from earlier if u wanna read up on the set ups in each car.

363pump/459race- https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=539542
414pump/482race- https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=532800
372pump @ 9psi- https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=515247

Full-Race Geoff

i completely agree with you guys...

we know 60-1s work, thats why i personally havent been running around trying to change mine out. I spin to 140 so i think the turbo works well. its the tires that need some help...

i think that the SC61 is really for guys who are just getting into fast turbo cars, and for people who have baby t3t4s. Its a great turbo for a high power street car. You dont quite have to take the jump to a full t4 but you get all the power up top nonetheless. I like these turbos, but its too bad the owner/proprieter of precision sucks.

There will be some alternatives to these turbos available form numerous sources shortly, however.