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Old 09-28-2011, 07:42 PM
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alright i got my motor to turn over and everything is fine. I pulled to injector clips off the

injectors in order to get oil circulated into the system first, but when i checked to make sure

the oil is not circulating to the head and didnt check the oil feed line to the turbo. So if

anyone could give some input as to what i should look at first before i go crazy.

*****mind you the oil pump is newand everything else is new(gsr)*****
Old 09-28-2011, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

how long did you crank it? It can take a long time to prime the oil system on a fresh build thats completely dry
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Remove your spark plug, it would be easier for the stater motor to turn the crank
do it until your oil light come off
it would take 1,5 minutes on a B serie also do it in a few starter sequence
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

oh ok. my buddy who works for honda told me 15 seconds. but i will take out the spark plugs today and keeping turniing it over. i knew someone would pull through. thanks
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

i had this issue with a mitsubishi

i had to take off the oil filter and crank it until oil came through the oil filter housing, after reconnecting the oil filter i primed and got oil pressure soon after
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Why would you do that...? That just makes a mess lol. If you want to speed it up a little, fill the oil filter with oil before installing it. Pull the valve cover off and watch for oil flow to the head, then you're golden
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Originally Posted by viper_boy403
Why would you do that...? That just makes a mess lol. If you want to speed it up a little, fill the oil filter with oil before installing it. Pull the valve cover off and watch for oil flow to the head, then you're golden


u can put a container tocatch the oil. im just telling the guy what usually worked for me when i had probs with priming, we had put oil in the oil filter and everything and still had issues.
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Just start it. It will prime instantly, watch your oil gauge. You can't get enough rpm with the starter to prime it. You're going to do more damage cranking it over dry 500 times.
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Originally Posted by Muckman
Just start it. It will prime instantly, watch your oil gauge. You can't get enough rpm with the starter to prime it. You're going to do more damage cranking it over dry 500 times.

thanks.....someone with knowledge
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Originally Posted by Muckman
Just start it. It will prime instantly, watch your oil gauge. You can't get enough rpm with the starter to prime it. You're going to do more damage cranking it over dry 500 times.
Completely agree. Every new motor I build I just fill with oil and start up. It primes a lot faster at 1000 rpms then turning it for 30 seconds at 100 rpms.
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Originally Posted by Muckman
Just start it. It will prime instantly, watch your oil gauge. You can't get enough rpm with the starter to prime it. You're going to do more damage cranking it over dry 500 times.
What the hell are you talking about? Of course you can. Disable the ignition and fuel, and crank the car. After ~20 seconds of cranking (in intervals) the oil light will go off, and its not because the light gets tired of staying on. My guess is...IT HAS OIL PRESSURE

Originally Posted by Tootsie7944
Completely agree. Every new motor I build I just fill with oil and start up. It primes a lot faster at 1000 rpms then turning it for 30 seconds at 100 rpms.
RPM is not the issue. You're not getting anywhere near as much force on the bearings by using the starter like you are when the engine is running. Yeah, it will prime faster, but its not exactly a good idea.
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Originally Posted by jrp355
thanks.....someone with knowledge
wow and u rather take this advice?
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

alright i tried again today....took out the spark plugs disabled to fuel. turned it over 3 times at 15 seconds each. there is a little oil in the head but its looks as if its from when i put it in.

suggestions yet again????
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

there is a little on the side of the starter, but none on timing belt side
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

oh and checked the oil filter to see if oil reached that poiint and there is plenty of oil in there
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

did the oil light turn off? make sure there is oil on the cam lobes before you go cranking it, you dont want metal-on-metal contact
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

no the oil light didnt go off. and there is assembly lube on the lobes
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Originally Posted by jrp355
there is assembly lube on the lobes
Not for long. Keep cranking it over...
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Originally Posted by Muckman
Just start it. It will prime instantly, watch your oil gauge. You can't get enough rpm with the starter to prime it. You're going to do more damage cranking it over dry 500 times.
i dont know about you, but my starter with 200,000 miles on it cranks my engine at about 400rpm, which is more then enough to pump oil to the head.
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

Honestly, if you are this paranoid about the oil priming, then get an oil gauge and mount the sensor in a spot on the head, or off the back of the block. If I ever prime a motor before starting it I just crank it for 10 seconds, watch the guage start to pump, and then fire her up.
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

i thought cranking rpm was somewhere around 250... oh well.


make sure you dont have any external leaks and that you had the gasket between the block and the pickup in the pan.

it could easily crank for 30 seconds to a minute before it builds oil pressure. having a full oil filter helps shorten the time.

normally i crank mine over for about 15-20 seconds per time, 2 or 3 times total until the dash light goes off. i do this with the plugs out so the starter doesnt fight against the compression of the engine. after that fire it up and make sure the light stays off and there are no external leaks. then start checking afr and stuff like that.
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Default Re: oil not circulating. fresh build????

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i thought cranking rpm was somewhere around 250... oh well.


make sure you dont have any external leaks and that you had the gasket between the block and the pickup in the pan.

it could easily crank for 30 seconds to a minute before it builds oil pressure. having a full oil filter helps shorten the time.

normally i crank mine over for about 15-20 seconds per time, 2 or 3 times total until the dash light goes off. i do this with the plugs out so the starter doesnt fight against the compression of the engine. after that fire it up and make sure the light stays off and there are no external leaks. then start checking afr and stuff like that.
i suppose it depends on the starter/battery size
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