hrmmm, because if I sit 50% throttle and ride to say 5k, I never hear the VTEC change over...anyway, so your saying the de-activation is more like an upper boundary for the range that you want vtec active in? why would you ever want it off above the activation RPM?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepyEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hrmmm, because if I sit 50% throttle and ride to say 5k, I never hear the VTEC change over...anyway, so your saying the de-activation is more like an upper boundary for the range that you want vtec active in? why would you ever want it off above the activation RPM?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes thats what I am saying. Allso you dont allways have to hear the vtec activation.If you dont belive me, hook up a small temporary led or something to the solenoid. and then watch when it activates.


Rob

 

ok, I will take your word for the fact that on my stock ECU it's active any time I'm above 4500 or wherever, assuming I'm above 15% throttle..so why would you want to de-activate it at any RPM above that?

 

Its just so you can change the activation point, not so you can deactivet it, you set the activate at one point and the deactivate at a point lower than that.


in vtec 5000
out of vtec 4500

Motor stays in vtec from 5000 to redline. Then out of vtec once rpm drop below 4500 or the given parameter that YOU set. Honestly this is not the place for this, If you have any more questions, IM me, I want to keep this thread about uberdata THanks


Rob

 

in the uberdata program, if you are not over a certain throttle position, it will activate vtec at a later point than the one you set. so if you set activation to 4400 and deactivate to 4100, and you are only cruising, then vtec will activate at like 4800. another thing to note is that ***EDIT "i think"***the interface is backwards in uberdata, meaning the deactivate and activate are switched. so to change the activate point to 4800, set the deactivate box to 4800 and and set the activate box to your wanted deactivate point.


Modified by ndogg at 12:09 AM 12/1/2003

 

Factory Honda ECU activates VTEC at a different point dependant on throttle position. I would guess that most likely the Uberdata VTEC points are only active at full throttle, if you see VTEC at a different point at part throttle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ndogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in the uberdata program, if you are not over a certain throttle position, it will activate vtec at a later point than the one you set. so if you set activation to 4400 and deactivate to 4100, and you are only cruising, then vtec will activate at like 4800. another thing to note is that the interface is backwards in uberdata, meaning the deactivate and activate are switched. so to change the activate point to 4800, set the deactivate box to 4800 and and set the activate box to your wanted deactivate point.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF? Are you serious?!?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverSellout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Factory Honda ECU activates VTEC at a different point dependant on throttle position. I would guess that most likely the Uberdata VTEC points are only active at full throttle, if you see VTEC at a different point at part throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont think that is correct but really dont know, I dont have a vtec motor so I dont know. NDOG, care to elaborate on this. Way to jump start the thread agian guys


Rob

 

Back on topic, does anyone know if the stock EPROM can be put into the socket for smog purposes? Or would the ECU not be able to read the stock EPROM after the socketing is done?

 

All you need to do is cut the jumper on the ecu, and it will go back to its original stock map. It's the J1 jumper on the ecu.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverSellout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Factory Honda ECU activates VTEC at a different point dependant on throttle position. I would guess that most likely the Uberdata VTEC points are only active at full throttle, if you see VTEC at a different point at part throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is correct.

 

its correct that vtec only activates at full throttle in uberdata?

Rob

 

Don't believe so, I know that vtec will engage at different positions in any vtec ecu based on throttle position though.

 

when i dissagreed with this...


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverSellout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Factory Honda ECU activates VTEC at a different point dependant on throttle position. I would guess that most likely the Uberdata VTEC points are only active at full throttle, if you see VTEC at a different point at part throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was talking about the full throttle vtec engagment. Then you quoted the same thing saying '"that is correct" so it confused me. So uberdata wil still vary engagment points based on rpm and throttle position correct?


Rob

 

i believe so. It will still engage at partial throttle-thats for sure. It really makes no difference if you ask me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All you need to do is cut the jumper on the ecu, and it will go back to its original stock map. It's the J1 jumper on the ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, I just did a little bit of research, as far as I can tell, the area of the ECU that we would be adding sockets to is unused, and removing the J1 jumper then tells the ECU not to look there for the program?


Modified by SilverSellout at 7:39 AM 12/1/2003


Modified by SilverSellout at 7:41 AM 12/1/2003

 

yes thats correct but man its in this thread like 5 times now.


Rob

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WTF? Are you serious?!?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, i didn't spend much time on it but... we all know that when you open a stock p72 bin in uberdata, the enable is set at 4126 and the stock disable is set at 4376. well, i only tried this one time... i set the disengage to 4800 and engage to 4500 and my vtec activated at 4800. now that i think about it though, it could just be overwriting the command to engage at 4500 because it is also trying to disengage untill 4800. i am becoming a little bit used to reading the 66K assembly language and blakes program does not seem to change the values upon opening a bin, so i would assume that he just has the interface backward. i am away from my car untill next weekend so can someone clear this up?

also, if this is not true, can someone tell me why it opens a stock bin with the disable set above the enable?





Modified by ndogg at 12:22 AM 12/1/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ndogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
also, if this is not true, can someone tell me why it opens a stock bin with the disable set above the enable?
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This is what was causing all my confusion earlier. I was assuming it was meant to be higher, which was making me question a whole lot of things. Does anyone here make contact with blake on a regular basis?

 

When I set mine to engage 4900 disengage 4800 or so, it acted really funny - the solenoid would click on/off around the area. I changed the values around and it was fixed.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepyeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's not really clarification</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who said it was?
If you would get off your lazy *** and read the thread you wouldn't need any.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjardy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Honestly If you read everything in this thread about the program, most questions will be answered.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slashDEVslashNULL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Who said it was?
If you would get off your lazy *** and read the thread you wouldn't need any.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Some of us lazy asses have much better things to do than read 35 pages, 32 of which aren't pertinent. The point of this thread is to share software that helps people, something apparently you don't feel like doing for me? I didn't ask a stupid question, or ask it in a stupid manner, I tried to save some time. Sorry if that was too much to ask

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepyEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Some of us lazy asses have much better things to do than read 35 pages, 32 of which aren't pertinent. The point of this thread is to share software that helps people, something apparently you don't feel like doing for me? I didn't ask a stupid question, or ask it in a stupid manner, I tried to save some time. Sorry if that was too much to ask</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea really, i've got some questions too but dont feel like asking b/c I'll just get the "read the thread you lazy ***" when in fact I have read almost all of it. Most of it is useless to me b/c people are talking about their specific applications. But if anyone is very good w/Uberdata (or has the 3bar version) and wouldn't mind answering some questions, please PM me... Thanks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepyEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Some of us lazy asses have much better things to do than read 35 pages, 32 of which aren't pertinent. The point of this thread is to share software that helps people, something apparently you don't feel like doing for me? I didn't ask a stupid question, or ask it in a stupid manner, I tried to save some time. Sorry if that was too much to ask</TD></TR></TABLE>

We are helping you. If we just tell you something you'll assume you know everything about Uberdata. But chances are, somewhere in the middle of this now-36-page document you'll find something that you had no clue about and would never have known if we just pre-chewed your information for you Don't take it personally, but reading the entire thread is REALLY the best way to learn. I'm re-reading my way through it again and laughing about the stupid, stupid questions I asked near the beginning. Ugh.

I'm willing to bet you wouldn't say you 'had better things to do than read this 32 page thread' when you accidentally blow your engine...


Modified by raene at 8:49 AM 12/1/2003

 

maybe we should let this thread die and start questions in new threads.

just put uberdata somewhere in the subject. this thread is a great piece of work as it is. i might have a mod lock it. it will be archived.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepyEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Some of us lazy asses have much better things to do than read 35 pages, 32 of which aren't pertinent. The point of this thread is to share software that helps people, something apparently you don't feel like doing for me? I didn't ask a stupid question, or ask it in a stupid manner, I tried to save some time. Sorry if that was too much to ask</TD></TR></TABLE>

And I suppose the rest of us who did the reading and educated ourselves have the time and obligation to spoon feed the handicapped

If you have better things to do go do them, and have someone else tune your car. I suppose you want a degree but have better things to do than study or prepare.

I agree with raene and falcongsr.

And it takes about 5 minutes to skim through the thread.