i really like it. It's cheap and fast (what's the other part to that saying again... reliable, that's it). The best part about the car is i think it will MAKE honda wake up and design something that can compete with it. Honda has the civic Si to compete with the srt4. The civic si sucks compared to the neon. i hope the neon is reliable so Honda will be forced to make some changes to their line up.

 

Does no one just love HP anymore? This car has EVERYTHING you wished Honda would put into one of their new cars, but didn't.

2.4 liter DOHC, built like a brick shithouse - it's not a new motor either, this motor's been run in Mexico of all places for 7 years
Factory performance packages, 2 which will be covered under warrenty, another that pushes it to a claimed 350whp without warrenty.
Front Mount Intercooler, stock.
Runs with Mustang GT's off the floor.
19k MSRP

Styling is subjective, and i don't give a damn if it is a neon. While some of you are putting turbo's on your car to run low 14's/ high 13's, this one you just turn the key. I plan on working with a lot of these cars very soon, since Honda is only producing CRAP right now.

 

I'm more looking forward to the Mazdaspeed Protege

 

Word, Honda needs to make some real power cars stock... it seems like they dont try. Or maybe they know that swaps are possible... like rsx r motor into a EP chassis... I bet that would hang with the new neon.. put a turbo on it and then see what happens... I just dontunderstand why they are making things heavier ******* eps wiegh 2744.. The neon is tight though id roll in one, I wouldnt buy one id rather buy something better S2000 used is only another 3 grand... Thats a real honda : )

 

until you break a diff like i did - twice. Or until you try to mod it and break the bank.

swaps are indeed possible, but hardly worth it. The RSX Type S is 2850, the EP Si is only 120lbs~ less than that, hardly worth the effort IMHO, let alone the rediculous cost

 

you know its sad when honda owners have to talk about swaps to keep up with stock neons!!

i think vaportrail is right though... factory forced induction rules!!

 

It's gonna be a hot commodity for a while!

 

I also wish Honda would return fire with a decent out-of-the-box performer to compete against the new 4 cyl beast. I see the turbo Neon as a good thing for the 4-banger world. That's why my next car could possibly be the next gen supercharged Mustang or maybe even the Sti, that way I don't have to worry about any pesky, high-strung Neon stUnNaZ trying anything funny. In the mean time, I'll have fun foolin' around with this little t3/t04e

 

dont you mean underrate?

225whp and 350z 1/4 times for 20k is a badass car.

 

I think they're pretty nice cars performance wise, but they're *** ugly. It's about time more turbo cars started coming out from the factory again.

 

they wont. honda's market is reliable econocars. not pocket rockets. no matter how much noise we make, we're still just a small sliver of their market.

 

Actually, IIRC, dodge rated the srt-4 at 215hp, but scc had a decent issue a while back where they dynoed it at 225whp. I've heard that dodge did some weird dyno things to underrate it in order to keep your insurance costs low.

 

Why do people keep saying this? Don't forget that Dodge was taken over by Daimler (the mercedes guys). The SRT was completely redesigned by the SRT folks who were being coached by the Mercedes AMG folks (remember them?). Lets also not forget that the SRT-4 was designed by the same group of people who designed the new dodge truck, and the new viper. And with AMG and the rest of Daimler looking over their shoulder, I doubt that they could push crap out of the door.

Will it hold up, only time will tell. However I think that most of us will agree that it is the best thing out there for under $20k and probably still one of the best for under $30k.

 

I can tell you that after ive been here for a few years and Im makin good money after i turn 25 and my insurance becomes reasonable i will definitely pick one of these bad boys up, the yellow is repulsive tho, i dont really care for the spoiler also

even if honda had a factory boosted car be sure it would be around $30K minimum

whenever your boosted from stock the upgraded power comes so much easier, after all how many people ran 300+hp on eclipses with stock everything. the real test will come when we are able to stock them and i get to take one out and see how it rides, i know it will be fast straight line but the real milk and cookies will come when the road starts to move

 

whatever. i just lived thru a massive corporate merger like this. its takes years for the practices of 1 company to influence another. its a boosted neon. stronger parts yes. same reliability issures? - definitely.

i guarantee it.

 

I can't wait to see some on the street!

SRT-4

 

 

I think the car is great, and I give Chrysler the for having the ***** to release a car like this. It's going to sell like hot cakes. I think Honda's efforts to compete in the "sport compact performance" market have been very poor at best. They have quite the opportunity to make a profit given the large masses of people who modify Hondas...the Honda B series engine is like the GM 350 of the future...It would be nice to see Honda release a car like this but I don't think they're capable of making such a performer for such little $$ out of the box.

SRT-4

-Seth


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we're a tiny minority really. rice doesnt count.

its already out of production. it will be significant in the history of the car (thanks to its F1 heritage), but its no SBC.

it would be nice and i think they could, but they wont do anything to sacrifice the legendary reliablity.

amen.

 

I hear you. I just had a heated discussion about that the other day with some friends and I argued that same point. The Honda Civic and the Accord, for that matter, are in the top three of the best-selling cars in America--for the reason you stated above. As long as they stay faithful to their buying demographic (boring average Joe's) they'll stay on top no matter how fast a 19k neon is in the 1/4 mile.

 

I read in a magazine called Motor (it has bulletins on upcoming models) that the turbo neon block has piston squirters. If anybody cares.

 

Straight from SCC...

Drivetrain
Layout : Transverse front-engine, front-wheel drive
Transmission : 5-speed manual
1 : 3.647:1
2 : 2.045:1
3 : 1.367:1
4 : 0.947:1
5 : 0.756:1

Final drive : 3.526:1
Differential : Open

Someone thought it had a lsd?, hahahaha.. nope! one-wheel burnouts
Also, the gear ratios dont look right, but look at the final. That'll set 'em str8.

On the dyno it got 223hp @ 5800rpm and..
this is dumb: peak torque @ 3000rpm 250 lb-ft of torque
then from the peak, it takes a dive to 160 lb-ft @ 6000rpm.
Too much stroke than rod length

Who the fuc is stupid enough to put that kind of power in a FWD car with an open diff? fauken faukers! (sorry for being mad).

Ive said it many times but.. Early torque is bad! FWD already has problems with traction. Why have it early when its better to have it up high?

Btw, in another forum someone read about the development of the SRT-4, Dodge was making the control units hard to hack ..avoiding the possiblity of adding aftermarket parts. A customer would have to buy the **** from Moe Par. Which is the same **** Ford is doing to the '03 S/C Cobra. The stupid PCM for Saturn sucks *** too.

 

I just cannot bring mysellf to like a neon.

 

 

are those neons pictured stock? just curious? i dont know much about them