Need ideas for a good engine build.
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Need ideas for a good engine build.
Okay funds have arrived going to go with a peak boost top mount turbo kit.
But first I would like to remedy up a stout engine rebuild. I'm staying with my little b16a which came with the Si. Any suggestions as to what's a great all around setup to handle about 13 psi without any worries?
But first I would like to remedy up a stout engine rebuild. I'm staying with my little b16a which came with the Si. Any suggestions as to what's a great all around setup to handle about 13 psi without any worries?
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You say that with such confidence. I wish I could but sadly I know this isn't true. In that case I would just order a peakboost turbo kit and install it and call it the day but on a stock b16a3 I doubt 10 psi will hold long.
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if you dont want any worries than go buy a new car with 300hp and a warranty.
he speaks the truth though, you could do that on a stock motor with a good tune and it would be quite reliable. btw 13psi on what turbo? I asume a 50 or 57 trim t3/t4e is standard in the peakboost kits?
he speaks the truth though, you could do that on a stock motor with a good tune and it would be quite reliable. btw 13psi on what turbo? I asume a 50 or 57 trim t3/t4e is standard in the peakboost kits?
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It's a Peakboost B-Series Topmount Kit
w/ GT35R upgrade
w/ Tial 38mm wastegate standard
w/ 24x8x3.5 Intercooler upgrade
Looking to go 10psi safely
w/ GT35R upgrade
w/ Tial 38mm wastegate standard
w/ 24x8x3.5 Intercooler upgrade
Looking to go 10psi safely
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i'm over 300whp on my GSR and have been for a little while...i'll be retuning on the 27th and be making more than now. I'm shooting for 330/230 on a stock GSR
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Schister nice numbers I'm looking to be there pretty soon. The question is do I rebuild the b16 then go for 10psi or just bolt it on and start with 9psi for a little bit?
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oic... well to each their own I guess. I am sure others will have their opinions and hopefully chime in here but why not consider something a little smaller than a gt35r that can still achieve those power levels. It would dramatically improve your powerband and boost response, although it limits you on how much you can up the boost later when you want more power.
as for the motor, agian I am sure others will interject their opinion but I would say you could do some wiseco pistons, eagle rods, honda or acl bearings, fresh honda headgasket, etc... for a pretty reasonable price. that would make the motor pretty stout and much stronger for that power level.
then is would all come down to tuning and management... the options are plentiful there and would most depend on what features you want, as well as your budget.
as for the motor, agian I am sure others will interject their opinion but I would say you could do some wiseco pistons, eagle rods, honda or acl bearings, fresh honda headgasket, etc... for a pretty reasonable price. that would make the motor pretty stout and much stronger for that power level.
then is would all come down to tuning and management... the options are plentiful there and would most depend on what features you want, as well as your budget.
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Thanks twkdCD I will probably stay with the standard .57 trim turbo peakboost has to offer. However, I like your point about the powerband. I forgot to think about where I would like it to be and that's around 3k till about 8.5k's like a freight train pull that is.
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bolt on and go, dont rebuild...have you ever checked the "highest HP stock block" thread?? It would make you feel pretty comfortable about wanting 300whp...lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twkdCD595 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oic... well to each their own I guess. I am sure others will have their opinions and hopefully chime in here but why not consider something a little smaller than a gt35r that can still achieve those power levels. It would dramatically improve your powerband and boost response, although it limits you on how much you can up the boost later when you want more power.
as for the motor, agian I am sure others will interject their opinion but I would say you could do some wiseco pistons, eagle rods, honda or acl bearings, fresh honda headgasket, etc... for a pretty reasonable price. that would make the motor pretty stout and much stronger for that power level.
then is would all come down to tuning and management... the options are plentiful there and would most depend on what features you want, as well as your budget.</TD></TR></TABLE>
AGREED.
also you could run 300 on a stock motor. with a good tune its been done way too many times.
as for the motor, agian I am sure others will interject their opinion but I would say you could do some wiseco pistons, eagle rods, honda or acl bearings, fresh honda headgasket, etc... for a pretty reasonable price. that would make the motor pretty stout and much stronger for that power level.
then is would all come down to tuning and management... the options are plentiful there and would most depend on what features you want, as well as your budget.</TD></TR></TABLE>
AGREED.
also you could run 300 on a stock motor. with a good tune its been done way too many times.
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I would rock it stock for a couple months
on the bottom end. start building a spare bottom
end and when you have time swap em out.
no down time unless you scatter the motor early.
on the bottom end. start building a spare bottom
end and when you have time swap em out.
no down time unless you scatter the motor early.
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okay how bout get a really good tune. turn it up up up till it pops see where that level is. or until you poo yourself cause its faster than you want it and still holdin. but i always wait till somethin breaks before i fix it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dont_tri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You say that with such confidence. I wish I could but sadly I know this isn't true. In that case I would just order a peakboost turbo kit and install it and call it the day but on a stock b16a3 I doubt 10 psi will hold long. </TD></TR></TABLE>
from the STOCK BLOCK thread
B16:
1. Randys 630whp and 390tq on 118. (10.97@131)
2. C squared motorsports 511whp GSR head/GSR tranny....(10.84@134)
3. redline130 393 whp 261 ftlbs, C16 (11.65 @ 125mph)
4. marques4130 350 whp sunoco 112 best (11.8 @ 119 @ 4200 ft)
5. 98gsrTEG 344whp@1 bar on pump gas
6. Black SI 344whp on a stock b16 @14psi
7. 99B16Si 333whp/221wtq SAE at 13psi SC61
8. integlspwr2k 330whp on a stock head stock block
9. Bryson 329whp 210tq 13psi SC61 on 91
10. G"UNIT 329whp 207tq @12psi on a sc61 on 93 octane
from the STOCK BLOCK thread
B16:
1. Randys 630whp and 390tq on 118. (10.97@131)
2. C squared motorsports 511whp GSR head/GSR tranny....(10.84@134)
3. redline130 393 whp 261 ftlbs, C16 (11.65 @ 125mph)
4. marques4130 350 whp sunoco 112 best (11.8 @ 119 @ 4200 ft)
5. 98gsrTEG 344whp@1 bar on pump gas
6. Black SI 344whp on a stock b16 @14psi
7. 99B16Si 333whp/221wtq SAE at 13psi SC61
8. integlspwr2k 330whp on a stock head stock block
9. Bryson 329whp 210tq 13psi SC61 on 91
10. G"UNIT 329whp 207tq @12psi on a sc61 on 93 octane
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Yeah I read that thread on the b16 which is amazing. I will get the kit and get it tuned be a good tuner which is another search and rescue now. Good tuners are a very very hard to find.
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i recently put a turbo set up on my stock b16.. got a vacumm leak and cracked a piston. now jus fully built the bottom end. if i was you and had the money to do so. get forged pistons and new rods, rings, bearings and sleeve it. then u can always pretty high with out any worries... dnt put ur money to jus turbo it now den later open it all up again to change it out. of course u can do that set up on a stock internal block but for a daily driver id suggest to build it that way u will knw ur engine is safe and not under stress.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lovey408 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i recently put a turbo set up on my stock b16.. got a vacumm leak and cracked a piston. now jus fully built the bottom end. if i was you and had the money to do so. get forged pistons and new rods, rings, bearings and sleeve it. then u can always pretty high with out any worries... dnt put ur money to jus turbo it now den later open it all up again to change it out. of course u can do that set up on a stock internal block but for a daily driver id suggest to build it that way u will knw ur engine is safe and not under stress.</TD></TR></TABLE>
vacuum leaks DO NOT cause cracked pistons. what ever caused that to happen woulda damaged a built motor too.
vacuum leaks DO NOT cause cracked pistons. what ever caused that to happen woulda damaged a built motor too.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dont_tri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You say that with such confidence. I wish I could but sadly I know this isn't true. In that case I would just order a peakboost turbo kit and install it and call it the day but on a stock b16a3 I doubt 10 psi will hold long. </TD></TR></TABLE>
He says it with confidence because it's true; though your concern is only natural. It is a risk with anything, I've seen stock motors last over 30,000 miles making silly numbers, and I've piston/rod blocks go within 500. Go with quality parts, stay on top of the maintenance, and have someone competent behind the keyboard and you won't have an issue either way. I say stay stock, run your current goals, and find a spare block to build up over time.
Edit: <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dont_tri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I read that thread on the b16 which is amazing. I will get the kit and get it tuned be a good tuner which is another search and rescue now. Good tuners are a very very hard to find. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Where in NY are you? Take it to Jeff (www.evans-tuning.com) and be on your way.
He says it with confidence because it's true; though your concern is only natural. It is a risk with anything, I've seen stock motors last over 30,000 miles making silly numbers, and I've piston/rod blocks go within 500. Go with quality parts, stay on top of the maintenance, and have someone competent behind the keyboard and you won't have an issue either way. I say stay stock, run your current goals, and find a spare block to build up over time.
Edit: <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dont_tri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I read that thread on the b16 which is amazing. I will get the kit and get it tuned be a good tuner which is another search and rescue now. Good tuners are a very very hard to find. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Where in NY are you? Take it to Jeff (www.evans-tuning.com) and be on your way.
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