96accordsir

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92redhatch
go be a ****** in another thread leave this one alone
u just keep sayin the same thing
ur not changing anyones minds
ur car is more expensive


Modified by 96accordsir at 10:09 PM 6/20/2007

slodel

i have a sohc

pretty happy with it, it lacks compression in the cylds, there at about 145 each

i am boosting 10lbs big 16g

just turned 205,000 miles been boosted for about 15,000 miles so far

i am guessing here, but if my compression was on, its a stock d16z6, it would be well over 200whp at 10lbs

good job on the motor, i read the whole thread

i like both b and d series, depends on the person, the money they have and whats available

Newt Dog

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats nice that your faster than a b16. but i think i said with the money you spend on a turbo d15b you could have a nice b16 on nitrous. but either way good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm.. I'm debating, Should I sell my d16 turbo and buy a b16 w/nitrous?

What a retard..

dewoine

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slodel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a sohc

i like both b and d series, depends on the person, the money they have and whats available </TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree.. if i had the money i would have a h2b swap

92redhatch

96accordsir. im saying my preference. id rather have a b over a d anyday of the week. and for the stupid my car is slow comment. you dont know what ur talking about. i have an 84mm lsvtec hatch with a 62-1bb turbo.

lmfao.

to each there own.

GetawayInMoscow

Umm a turbo D is going to be barely faster than a COMPLETELY STOCK B16. Whoop de ******* do guys, want a cookie? You took 100whp of tire melting fury, boost it, and make 200 whp of tire melting fury, all to cut barely better 1/4 mile times than people with stock B16 swaps.

Turbo the B16 and it will destroy any D-series out there short of maybe a handful.

ILcrxsi1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Umm a turbo D is going to be barely faster than a COMPLETELY STOCK B16. Whoop de ******* do guys, want a cookie? You took 100whp of tire melting fury, boost it, and make 200 whp of tire melting fury, all to cut barely better 1/4 mile times than people with stock B16 swaps.

Turbo the B16 and it will destroy any D-series out there short of maybe a handful.</TD></TR></TABLE>is this a ******* joke? barely faster?

ha ******* ha

92redhatch

turbo d's can be quick. and ya they are faster than b16s. but if i planned on making serious power i wouldnt use a d series motor.

KillSwitch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo d's can be quick. and ya they are faster than b16s. but if i planned on making serious power i wouldnt use a d series motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow... there are single cams making well over 400whp

92redhatch

ya and? there are b series making over 800whp. all i am saying is there is more room for improvement.

dewoine

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4NOWJUSTADX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am looking to swap to a JDM D15B. My goal is to get at least 200 hp. at the wheels. I really don't have the $$$ for forged pistons and rods</TD></TR></TABLE>
this thread is just turning into another d vs b series thread.
yes ...a b16 will be easly to have a 200whp goal but , at what cost?
even if you get it from a reputable company like hmotorsonlinehttp://hmotorsonline.com/shop/...30004
that's 1750 plus shipping already out the bank.not including mounts . obviously he is on a budget so a d15b boosted to say 10 psi on a good conservative tune will get him there a lil easier. me myself a have a d15b that i paid 425 shipped and me being unsure on piecing together a turbo kit bought a greddy kit for 1400 new even if he pieces together one he'll come out cheaper then i did. im not saying yes i pick D over B but for the money the D-series will be cheaper ...same tranny , same mounts, etc
as fair as improvement goes when you get a fwd up to lets say 400 whp anything pass that on the street is not even fun and really drivable

S@nt0s

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Umm a turbo D is going to be barely faster than a COMPLETELY STOCK B16. Whoop de ******* do guys, want a cookie? You took 100whp of tire melting fury, boost it, and make 200 whp of tire melting fury, all to cut barely better 1/4 mile times than people with stock B16 swaps.

Turbo the B16 and it will destroy any D-series out there short of maybe a handful.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what a DRONE.......

so tell me how i ran 12.7 on a greddy kit in a EJ1?????? and still get over 30mpg

Newt Dog

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya and? there are b series making over 800whp. all i am saying is there is more room for improvement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is one thing you guy's need to remember. There will always be someone out there that's faster and better than you in this hobby. d-series or b-series, Who gives a ****... The purpose of this is to have fun anyway..

S@nt0s

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newt Dog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There is one thing you guy's need to remember. There will always be someone out there that's faster and better than you in this hobby. d-series or b-series, Who gives a ****... The purpose of this is to have fun anyway.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Plus #'s dont mean anything....

Ubertec

Lets not forget about altitude. The higher you go the more beneficial FI is. Here @ 7000ft I regularly smoke n/a v8s with my 200WHP, D15b2, stock internals EF. Those clowns only have 11psi of natural pressure up here and are missing about 1/4-1/3 of their HP! Oh and I'll take a N/A b16 by a football field half way through 3rd.

HiProfile

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya and? there are b series making over 800whp. all i am saying is there is more room for improvement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess you need to understand most d-series owners usually use them as street cars, not track ******. Also consider that those motors use way more than the simple kit, stock head, and pump gas a sohc will be using. For 350whp and less, there isn't room for improvement over a sohc FOR THE PRICE.

The $1500 difference between the B and D swap is HUGE, even if you have $4k into the D and $5.5k into the total B swap.

92redhatch, I'm seriously surpised you are still tooling around with Hondas. The real bandwagon is fox-body Moostangs and LSx Chevys. For the same $$ as your 84mm 60-1BB Honda, they would beat you like a redheaded stepchild.

I'd have had a sleeved dohc or a LS1 firebird (my 67 bird doesn't count) by now, but I'd rather save for house downpayment and school loans. Modded Hondas and Chevys are usually a crappy investment.

92redhatch

its a street car. Its not meant to be a track car. and i daily drive it. and it gets great gas mileage. im more than happy with my car. It takes my to school and work and its pretty quick. Im not into the domestic scene. And i know i would have spent less on a domestic and gone faster.

Im giving my advice because ive had 6 different motor setups in my car. Im not trying to say sohc turbo sux. Im just saying in my opinion i think he should switch to a DOHC motor. If 400whp is his goal then ya sleeve a sohc and put a t3t4.

it all depends on the power goal.

confucioussae

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it all depends on the power goal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4NOWJUSTADX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My goal is to get at least 200 hp. at the wheels. I really don't have the $$$ for forged pistons and rods</TD></TR></TABLE>

the OP already stated his power goal, and the cheapest way to get there is a sohc-T

/thread.

GetawayInMoscow

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what a DRONE.......

so tell me how i ran 12.7 on a greddy kit in a EJ1?????? and still get over 30mpg </TD></TR></TABLE>

Let's see the time slip chief.

Even if you did do it, I bet it was like a 12.7 @ 100 mph because you just cut some insane 60' on slicks.

confucioussae

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Let's see the time slip chief.

Even if you did do it, I bet it was like a 12.7 @ 100 mph because you just cut some insane 60' on slicks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats wrong with that? no need to hate on drivers that are better than you

S@nt0s

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Let's see the time slip chief.

Even if you did do it, I bet it was like a 12.7 @ 100 mph because you just cut some insane 60' on slicks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahah ive never ran slicks on any of my hondas... regular street tires or BFG's.. that was on BFG's
12.7@107......

but sorry no time slip that was like back in OCT or Nov... hell that lil **** pulled on a GSR hatch running 10 psi... and i was on a freakin DX tranny.....

let me see a torqueless B16 light'em up like this.....


then i did a Stock JDM D15B with a t3t4 that pulled more on 10PSI then the greddy on 15 but i never got a chance to time her...

here it is mocking up the manifold... teh D15B long block plus all teh goodies to boost it cost me about $1200.... still cheaper then a B16 swap..... i would go str8 LS before a B16

slodel

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">96accordsir. im saying my preference. id rather have a b over a d anyday of the week. and for the stupid my car is slow comment. you dont know what ur talking about. i have an 84mm lsvtec hatch with a 62-1bb turbo.

lmfao.

to each there own.</TD></TR></TABLE>

get over it buddy

dewoine

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If 400whp is his goal then ya sleeve a sohc and put a t3t4.

it all depends on the power goal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sleeves... what sleeves .....we doing 400whp on stock sleeeves now

has anybody actually seen how much the d series sleeves can handle?
i know one person on here hit 421whp


Modified by dewoine at 7:57 AM 6/22/2007

92redhatch

^time bomb.

Chris Tune

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


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thats a hf manifold made to be a top mount? OMFG i've seen it all...