Joseph Davis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do whatever you want to do but just remember that d series is at the bottom of the food chain.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it was your education that is bottom of the food chain. Nice try, tho.

Turbo D-series are nice if done well, and you'll have a bit more power as well as a LOT more torque than a sissy B16 with a 75 shot. They are a bit cheaper to buy, build, maintain, and set up I might add.

JDM_SOHC

haha now im not just making fun of u cuz nobody else likes you, im doing this simply by myself...

a stock d15b boosted is gonna be more fun then a stock d15b spraying, bottom line man... go read some books an articles on boosting an ****..

92redhatch

well i think its you that needs to learn how to read. Nobody said anything about a nitrous d series.

Also add up the money spent on a jdm d15b swap and a nice turbo kit. And if hes not doing all the work himself hes going to be spending over 3 grand for a turbo sohc.

92redhatch

whats lower than a d series?

MAybe your education is the lowest on the food chain. LOL

You SOHC till i die guys are hilarious.

ILcrxsi1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats lower than a d series?

MAybe your education is the lowest on the food chain. LOL

You SOHC till i die guys are hilarious.</TD></TR></TABLE> turbo d &gt; 75 shot b16

Joseph Davis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats lower than a d series?

MAybe your education is the lowest on the food chain. LOL

You SOHC till i die guys are hilarious.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I pretty much tune whatever comes my way from 3S-GTE to junkyard turbo Miatas. But, I primarily deal in Honduhs. Bang for the buck in Honduhland is a D16 or JDM D15B (same rod as D16) with 200-225 whp.

I know this firsthand because I've tuned a few hundred Honduhs, whereas you had one bad experience with a combo I doubt was set up and tuned correctly.

92redhatch

i never had a bad expierience with a turbo d. I just stated a fact. my nitrous'd b series motor was all around faster. And more fun.

90sedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i think its you that needs to learn how to read. Nobody said anything about a nitrous d series.

Also add up the money spent on a jdm d15b swap and a nice turbo kit. And if hes not doing all the work himself hes going to be spending over 3 grand for a turbo sohc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a b16 swap done the RIGHT way will cost you close to 3k alone. Add nitrous on top of that you are looking at 3500 ATLEASt.


Honestly, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


Turbo D &gt; b16 on nitrous

92redhatch

If its a b16a1 swap alone its $1200(about) so add 500 for nitrous=1700 plus w.e a shop charges.
A hydro b16a2 is $2000(about) add $500 for nitrous=$2500. Plus installation.

A D15b 600+shipping about $800 plus $2000 and up for a nice turbo kit =$2800 Plus Installation.

looking at the options for the amount of money id rather have a nitorus'd b16a2.

btw im just going by ebay prices. i know you can get things cheaper in other places.

90sedan

I'm sorry but you forgot to add in the costs of:

- mounts
-shiftlinkage
- wiring harness

Plus you would be stupid to not replace
-seals
-gaskets
-belts

And on top of that...labor charges

JDM_SOHC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If its a b16a1 swap alone its $1200(about) so add 500 for nitrous=1700 plus w.e a shop charges.
A hydro b16a2 is $2000(about) add $500 for nitrous=$2500. Plus installation.

A D15b 600+shipping about $800 plus $2000 and up for a nice turbo kit =$2800 Plus Installation.

looking at the options for the amount of money id rather have a nitorus'd b16a2.

btw im just going by ebay prices. i know you can get things cheaper in other places.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha.. d15b= 600, turbo kit=1000 max! fuel setup=250, tuned=150, so that's prolly less then 2g`s when ur done... ur #s were slightly off...

Dueceification

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILcrxsi1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> turbo d &gt; 75 shot b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

Turbo H ownz all bahahahah j/k

Dollar for dollar the D will be a good option. Though the b16 will defintly have more room to play down the road. If things break the D will be cheaper to replace but the b will put down more power. You should also look into maybe a d16z6 which you could probaly get cheaper becuase it aint JDM.

Boosted_Rex.

I had a friend who was on a greddy kit on a d15b he made 210 on 14 psi. The car ran for about 4 years before he took the motor out[which was still good] and put in a d16 with piston/rod combo.

92redhatch

Junkyard turbo kit= 1000 or ebay kit.
150 for a tune?where? arent dynos alone atleast 60 bux and hour?

Do whatever you feel like doing i could only recomend something. b series is what i recomend(*spelling).

Joseph Davis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i never had a bad expierience with a turbo d. I just stated a fact. my nitrous'd b series motor was all around faster. </TD></TR></TABLE>

And I repeat:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joseph Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this firsthand because I've tuned a few hundred Honduhs, whereas you had one bad experience with a combo I doubt was set up and tuned correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">150 for a tune?where? arent dynos alone atleast 60 bux and hour?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock longblock, stock MAP sensor D-series? Sure, I'll tune one of those for $150 including an hour of dyno time. That's a cake setup.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dueceification &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dollar for dollar the D will be a good option. Though the b16 will defintly have more room to play down the road. If things break the D will be cheaper to replace but the b will put down more power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Until you try to crest 400-425 whp, where headflow starts pushing PRs off most commonly available compressor maps, there is nothing cheaper than a D-series. You can field a budget car with good reliability for less cost than a slow as death NA B-series swap. 400 whp in a CRX gets you mid tens if your suspension is stock and you can drive, you can crack nines with a little suspension work.

92redhatch

well i guess we should all sell our b and k series since the SOHC d series is better.

SOHC till I Die!!! should be your slogan.

90sedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i guess we should all sell our b and k series since the SOHC d series is better.

SOHC till I Die!!! should be your slogan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're done...

JDM_SOHC

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You're done... </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

Joseph Davis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i guess we should all sell our b and k series since the SOHC d series is better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not neccesarily. I have a certain affection in my heart for LS, and to a lesser extent GSR. B16 are ****** no displacement turds, and most everything about the K's are poorly built especially the transmission... if you want to drop $15-25K on a build you can massage most of the K-problems out, though.

4NOWJUSTADX

I've found some good pistons/rods for my d16a1 dohc. I'm just going to research a good turbo setup for that motor. Thanks for the advise.

96accordsir

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ok
quit arguing
im interested in the same ?
i have a d15b as well
what would be a good set up for a d15b
and what internals would it be a good idea to get to get better hp #s safely?
thanks

ILcrxsi1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96accordsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok
quit arguing
im interested in the same ?
i have a d15b as well
what would be a good set up for a d15b
and what internals would it be a good idea to get to get better hp #s safely?
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>This thread is back, lol. Well my project is done and made 211whp at 9psi and is running like a champ. I have the boost turned down to 7 psi though just because. Oh and 92redhatch I will **** all over b16 cars. At 7 psi I'm still making 20 more at the wheels than a b16 makes at the crank

dewoine

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILcrxsi1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This thread is back, lol. Well my project is done and made 211whp at 9psi and is running like a champ. I have the boost turned down to 7 psi though just because. Oh and 92redhatch I will **** all over b16 cars. At 7 psi I'm still making 20 more at the wheels than a b16 makes at the crank </TD></TR></TABLE> i agree with getting a boosted d15b vtec. mines been boosted for over a year now with no problems . guess its becuase im on the factory boost on my greddy kit still right now i have a temporary CX tranny in for now but my best time in my 93 coupe on 5 psi 15g kit is a 14.3 with a dx tranny!!! i really was very impressed

and just for sh*ts and giggles i took it to the track with the long geared cx tranny. busted a 14.8

im not saying that theres anything wrong with a b series, its just that i really cant put forth that much money for a second gen b16a just to go low 15's

92redhatch

thats nice that your faster than a b16. but i think i said with the money you spend on a turbo d15b you could have a nice b16 on nitrous. but either way good luck.

S@nt0s

talk about some BS in here.....

Turbo D over a stock NOS B16 anyday in my book......