My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Full-Race, Gator, BFG, HPC)
08-19-2004, 08:36 PM
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My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Full-Race, Gator, BFG, HPC)
I had some down time due to a wastegate issue. So, I figured I'd upgrade a few things to raise the bar a little... My main efforts pertained to decreasing under hood temps and increasing traction. Pictures are usually worth more than a couple words. So, have a peek. My weekend off should be fun...that is if Mase ever gets around to sending my chip back 
Temp picures:
Full-race Mani with HPC coating (no wastegate)
Full-race Mani HPC coating (Black 44mm Tial wastegate)
Full-race down pipe with high temp wrap
Traction Pictures
225/50 BFG Drag Radials
Modified Stage 3 Gator Axles
Full-race traction bars
And lastly, one of my favorite pics
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I have yet to install everything. And it may be some time before I get her up and running. I may be able to install everything tomorrow. But, in the meantime, I have to wait on Mase....
Temp picures:
Full-race Mani with HPC coating (no wastegate)
Full-race Mani HPC coating (Black 44mm Tial wastegate)
Full-race down pipe with high temp wrap
Traction Pictures
225/50 BFG Drag Radials
Modified Stage 3 Gator Axles
Full-race traction bars
And lastly, one of my favorite pics
:I have yet to install everything. And it may be some time before I get her up and running. I may be able to install everything tomorrow. But, in the meantime, I have to wait on Mase....
08-19-2004, 08:44 PM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (rondigs)
how much was that mani i love those and i want to get one once i start the turbo setup part of me lsvtec
08-19-2004, 09:04 PM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Vu)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for being ignorant, but where do those traction bars go? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is a great post regarding the install process:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=936492
Here is a great post regarding the install process:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=936492
08-19-2004, 09:06 PM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (redturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much beefier are those axles compared to stock?? I forgot how mine look putting them in</TD></TR></TABLE>
Size isn't the only factor. Material and workmanship are huge factors when it comes to quality products:
http://www.gatorracingaxles.co...shtml
Size isn't the only factor. Material and workmanship are huge factors when it comes to quality products:
http://www.gatorracingaxles.co...shtml
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08-20-2004, 07:10 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (braintree)
The turn around time was only a couple days. It turned out better than I had anticipated.
08-20-2004, 07:13 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Pooptooth)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pooptooth »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great pictures, nice quality stuff
Christmas in August anyone??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe in the UPS man. He comes year-around.
Christmas in August anyone??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe in the UPS man. He comes year-around.
08-20-2004, 07:42 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (redturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much beefier are those axles compared to stock?? I forgot how mine look putting them in</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the same axles...
They don't really look that much 'beefier' but they are definately a heavier metal...
Although I know the gator site says something about the shaft being lighter than OEM, my axles (the entire assembly) definately weigh more.
I have the same axles...
They don't really look that much 'beefier' but they are definately a heavier metal...
Although I know the gator site says something about the shaft being lighter than OEM, my axles (the entire assembly) definately weigh more.
08-20-2004, 08:13 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (rondigs)
I cant wait to see a post install post 
Everything looks very good. I like the back drop too Kept my eyes from moving around.
Everything looks very good. I like the back drop too Kept my eyes from moving around.
08-20-2004, 08:22 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (0x64)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I cant wait to see a post install post Everything looks very good. I like the back drop too Kept my eyes from moving around.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm looking forward to the post install as well
Everything looks very good. I like the back drop too Kept my eyes from moving around.</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm looking forward to the post install as well
08-20-2004, 09:27 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (rondigs)
Man I wish they made those BFG's in a 235/50/15 or 245/50/15. The 225's on my car just smoke everywhere I go.
08-20-2004, 09:39 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Blown90hatcH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blown90hatcH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man I wish they made those BFG's in a 235/50/15 or 245/50/15. The 225's on my car just smoke everywhere I go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a feeling I'll be saying the same thing. But I'm sure the BFG's are better than the 205/45 16's I have on their now.
I'm also going to try out this setup:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=649401
I have a feeling I'll be saying the same thing. But I'm sure the BFG's are better than the 205/45 16's I have on their now.
I'm also going to try out this setup:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=649401
08-20-2004, 09:56 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (TURBODC4TEG)
anyone know how effective those heat coatings are compared to a heat "wrap" such as the one pictured on your down pipe ? ??
08-20-2004, 10:06 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (TURBODC4TEG)
very nice setup man. i am very close to putting my built ls/vtec motor in. I can not wait. post those pic up of your car when you get this installed. let me know how those tractions bars do..
08-20-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Dturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone know how effective those heat coatings are compared to a heat "wrap" such as the one pictured on your down pipe ? ??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just got off the phone with an HPC engineer. He really didn't want to compair the two (wrap and coating). He stated that he feels the wrap is detrimental to metal. He also stated that the wrap can also be a wick during possible fires. Due to those variables, he didn't recommend the wrap; therefore didn't compair the thermal differences between the two.
On the coating, he said that underhood temps can see an 18-25% reduction.
So, to answer the question... I don't know
I just got off the phone with an HPC engineer. He really didn't want to compair the two (wrap and coating). He stated that he feels the wrap is detrimental to metal. He also stated that the wrap can also be a wick during possible fires. Due to those variables, he didn't recommend the wrap; therefore didn't compair the thermal differences between the two.
On the coating, he said that underhood temps can see an 18-25% reduction.
So, to answer the question... I don't know
08-20-2004, 10:41 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (rondigs)
Very nice parts man, good luck post install it was definitely money well spent.
Edit: You probably already know but you had better water proof that heat wrap or you are gonna see some serious steam every time it rains. With out waterproofing the wrap will also rot pretty quickly. They make a waterproofing spray for it but in the pic yours did not apear to be coated.
The exhaust wrap and similar coatings are not just used to reduce under hood temps. They also speed up the exhaust flow by retaining the heat from the exhaust.
Modified by Inte9ralove00 at 3:21 PM 8/20/2004
Edit: You probably already know but you had better water proof that heat wrap or you are gonna see some serious steam every time it rains. With out waterproofing the wrap will also rot pretty quickly. They make a waterproofing spray for it but in the pic yours did not apear to be coated.
The exhaust wrap and similar coatings are not just used to reduce under hood temps. They also speed up the exhaust flow by retaining the heat from the exhaust.
Modified by Inte9ralove00 at 3:21 PM 8/20/2004
08-20-2004, 11:57 AM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Inte9ralove00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Inte9ralove00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very nice parts man, good luck post install it was definitely money well spent.
Edit: You probably already know but you had better water proof that heat wrap or you are gonna see some serious steam every time it rains. With out waterproofing the wrap will also rot pretty quickly. They make a waterproofing spray for it but in the pic yours did not apear to be coated.
Modified by Inte9ralove00 at 3:21 PM 8/20/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the advice. I really don't drive the car when its raining. The car is only happy when the pavement is dry.
Edit: You probably already know but you had better water proof that heat wrap or you are gonna see some serious steam every time it rains. With out waterproofing the wrap will also rot pretty quickly. They make a waterproofing spray for it but in the pic yours did not apear to be coated.
Modified by Inte9ralove00 at 3:21 PM 8/20/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the advice. I really don't drive the car when its raining. The car is only happy when the pavement is dry.
08-20-2004, 02:45 PM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (rondigs)
the coating works pretty good but the wrap definetly brings temp down. it'll look great in the car
08-20-2004, 03:05 PM
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (rondigs)
OOOOOOO CROME LOFL
That manifold is phucking gorgeous ::DROOL::!!
I love that black WG with the Full-Race manifold. It would have been nice to get the lower WG housing coated as well. That is what I will be doing when I get a new manifold. I am guessing maybe you didn’t have it when you got the manifold coated since you were having WG problems??
I want to know how much it lowers UH Temp's. That is an issue I am concerned about. I don’t believe that 18-25% really but that would be SWEET if it were true. That is supposed to be from just the manifold not the heat wrap on the DP correct?
I would not run the heat wrap on that flex. It will get nasty quick. You shuold just clamp it off at the ends It will still work great
LOFL That manifold is phucking gorgeous ::DROOL::!!
I love that black WG with the Full-Race manifold. It would have been nice to get the lower WG housing coated as well. That is what I will be doing when I get a new manifold. I am guessing maybe you didn’t have it when you got the manifold coated since you were having WG problems??
I want to know how much it lowers UH Temp's. That is an issue I am concerned about. I don’t believe that 18-25% really but that would be SWEET if it were true. That is supposed to be from just the manifold not the heat wrap on the DP correct?
I would not run the heat wrap on that flex. It will get nasty quick. You shuold just clamp it off at the ends
It will still work great
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Re: My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (si2die4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si2die4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OOOOOOO CROME LOFL
That manifold is phucking gorgeous ::DROOL::!! I am guessing maybe you didn’t have it when you got the manifold coated since you were having WG problems??
I want to know how much it lowers UH Temp's. That is an issue I am concerned about. I don’t believe that 18-25% really but that would be SWEET if it were true. That is supposed to be from just the manifold not the heat wrap on the DP correct?
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I tried to order the wastegate from FR, but they were out at the time. Soon there after, I learned that the tial 44mm WG's were on a national backorder. So, by the time I hunted one down, the mani was already on its way to be coated.
I'll keep everyone posted on the results. My hood release cable melted soon after a race gas pull. So, I decided to look into reducing temps...
LOFL That manifold is phucking gorgeous ::DROOL::!!
I am guessing maybe you didn’t have it when you got the manifold coated since you were having WG problems??I want to know how much it lowers UH Temp's. That is an issue I am concerned about. I don’t believe that 18-25% really but that would be SWEET if it were true. That is supposed to be from just the manifold not the heat wrap on the DP correct?
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I tried to order the wastegate from FR, but they were out at the time. Soon there after, I learned that the tial 44mm WG's were on a national backorder. So, by the time I hunted one down, the mani was already on its way to be coated.
I'll keep everyone posted on the results. My hood release cable melted soon after a race gas pull. So, I decided to look into reducing temps...