My efforts to Decrease Temps and Increase Traction (Full-Race, Gator, BFG, HPC)
Are you suposed to get the manifold up to operating temp before you coat it? I know a guy w/a 7.70 second Ford, he welds all his own stuff and made some headers and had them coated. They told him to run them first, then send them in, but he sent them in first and after a while the coating started to crack.
And just curious, how much did it cost to get it coated?
And just curious, how much did it cost to get it coated?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL MOTOR LS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you suposed to get the manifold up to operating temp before you coat it? I know a guy w/a 7.70 second Ford, he welds all his own stuff and made some headers and had them coated. They told him to run them first, then send them in, but he sent them in first and after a while the coating started to crack. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would think it is all on a molecular level and how well the coating bonds to a metal that has already reached it's "NOT" (normal operating temperature) since the metal would change as it reached certain temperatures. If it never exceeded a given temp you would not have to be concerned with any further changes in the metal. Makes sense to me.. but then again so does a 400hp fwd daily driven car.
I would think it is all on a molecular level and how well the coating bonds to a metal that has already reached it's "NOT" (normal operating temperature) since the metal would change as it reached certain temperatures. If it never exceeded a given temp you would not have to be concerned with any further changes in the metal. Makes sense to me.. but then again so does a 400hp fwd daily driven car.
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And just curious, how much did it cost to get it coated? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The cost was very reasonable. Less than a hundred bucks. The pricing varies depending on the size of the item being coated.
And just curious, how much did it cost to get it coated? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The cost was very reasonable. Less than a hundred bucks. The pricing varies depending on the size of the item being coated.
It feels soooo good to be back out on the road with boost. Especially because:
boost creep issue solved
underhood temps way down
Gator Axles and Full-Race traction bars coming soon. Post install (manifold) pictures hopefully tomorrow.
boost creep issue solved
underhood temps way down
Gator Axles and Full-Race traction bars coming soon. Post install (manifold) pictures hopefully tomorrow.
that coating looks great, but on the HPC site they claim... hell I'll just paste:
"For turbocharged, supercharged, rotary, Spec Racer Ford, and other applications where exhaust component temperature will exceed 1300° F for continuous periods we recommend our HiPerCoat Extreme™ coating."
so what made you go with the regular hipercoat?
"For turbocharged, supercharged, rotary, Spec Racer Ford, and other applications where exhaust component temperature will exceed 1300° F for continuous periods we recommend our HiPerCoat Extreme™ coating."
so what made you go with the regular hipercoat?
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so what made you go with the regular hipercoat?
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Well, the coating does reduce temps, hands down.
Originally, I had planned going with the extreme coating, but after I had talked to one of their engineers things changed. He suggested trying the hypercoat. He said that if the hypercoat ever failed or started to chip, they would credit the money I spent towards an upgrade. Great customer sevice
so what made you go with the regular hipercoat?
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Well, the coating does reduce temps, hands down.
Originally, I had planned going with the extreme coating, but after I had talked to one of their engineers things changed. He suggested trying the hypercoat. He said that if the hypercoat ever failed or started to chip, they would credit the money I spent towards an upgrade. Great customer sevice
Nice parts. I have all the same, except for the older style BFG's and my Tial is a 40mm.
I heat wrapped my Full Race header......took me 3 friggin hours too. Under hood temps went down considerably. I could rest my hand on the manifold after the car was run for a second or two, longer than i could my intake manifold after a run when its heatsoaked.
One thing that sucks about the black wrap (which im using also) is that eventually it fades, on the manifold moreover the dp cause of heat differences. I didnt coat them with the spray though.......and Ive never noticed any "steam" issues with the dp when driving in the rail.
I heat wrapped my Full Race header......took me 3 friggin hours too. Under hood temps went down considerably. I could rest my hand on the manifold after the car was run for a second or two, longer than i could my intake manifold after a run when its heatsoaked.
One thing that sucks about the black wrap (which im using also) is that eventually it fades, on the manifold moreover the dp cause of heat differences. I didnt coat them with the spray though.......and Ive never noticed any "steam" issues with the dp when driving in the rail.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice parts. I have all the same, except for the older style BFG's and my Tial is a 40mm.
I heat wrapped my Full Race header......took me 3 friggin hours too. Under hood temps went down considerably. I could rest my hand on the manifold after the car was run for a second or two, longer than i could my intake manifold after a run when its heatsoaked.
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I'm really happy with the way everything turned out. I can definitely tell a difference. My underhood temps USED TO be out of hand. Im not saying its ice cold under there, but hey, atleast my hood release cable isn't melting anymore.
I heat wrapped my Full Race header......took me 3 friggin hours too. Under hood temps went down considerably. I could rest my hand on the manifold after the car was run for a second or two, longer than i could my intake manifold after a run when its heatsoaked.
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I'm really happy with the way everything turned out. I can definitely tell a difference. My underhood temps USED TO be out of hand. Im not saying its ice cold under there, but hey, atleast my hood release cable isn't melting anymore.
Here are the post install pictures as promised:
Motor shots-


Gator Axles and Full-race traction bars (sorry for the quality, I was in a hurry)-



P.S. I installed the axles and traction bars today. After the install I took the car to the alignment shop, and guess what? It was dead on
Motor shots-


Gator Axles and Full-race traction bars (sorry for the quality, I was in a hurry)-



P.S. I installed the axles and traction bars today. After the install I took the car to the alignment shop, and guess what? It was dead on
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P.S. I installed the axles and traction bars today. After the install I took the car to the alignment shop, and guess what? It was dead on
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so did you notice a difference after all of that?
P.S. I installed the axles and traction bars today. After the install I took the car to the alignment shop, and guess what? It was dead on
</TD></TR></TABLE>so did you notice a difference after all of that?
As far as traction goes, I have yet to
1. Put on the drag radials
2. Take it to the track
If I can get out of the ER on time friday, I hope to make it to the track to see what she'll do on radials and pump gas.
As far as temps, I can really tell a difference. It used to get super hot under there, now its not so bad.
Can't wait to see what she'll do. I didn't want to take her down the track untill I was comfortable with every aspect of the setup. I think I'm finally feeling it
1. Put on the drag radials
2. Take it to the track
If I can get out of the ER on time friday, I hope to make it to the track to see what she'll do on radials and pump gas.
As far as temps, I can really tell a difference. It used to get super hot under there, now its not so bad.
Can't wait to see what she'll do. I didn't want to take her down the track untill I was comfortable with every aspect of the setup. I think I'm finally feeling it
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man thats nice </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks bro. I had alot of help along the way. H-T rules...
man thats nice </TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks bro. I had alot of help along the way. H-T rules...
Those are some of the sexiest pictures I have ever seen on and off a motor!
Looks good and one day my project will be done too and I hope it looks this good.
Looks good and one day my project will be done too and I hope it looks this good.
not to take away the spotlight, but jethot had a nice black coating they can apply to your parts: I had my dumptube, downpipe and manifold coated, its the coating that is certified up to 2k degrees, so no worries of it ever coming off.
here's a pic that someon snapped of it:
here's a pic that someon snapped of it:
I started to go with the high temp coating (2000+ degree), but the HPC engineer told me that it was overkill. I bet it does bring down the temps a little more. The engineer just told me it wasn't worth the money (3 times the cost of the hyper coat).
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it wasn't the cheapest, I think my bill was around 300 bucks or so, yet my downpipe has a built in test pipe, so it runs all the way back to my 3in thermal, so there were some good size pieces to be coated. that stuff is very well coated too, i dropped a screwdriver on it the other day pointy side down and there wasn't even an scratch.
it wasn't the cheapest, I think my bill was around 300 bucks or so, yet my downpipe has a built in test pipe, so it runs all the way back to my 3in thermal, so there were some good size pieces to be coated. that stuff is very well coated too, i dropped a screwdriver on it the other day pointy side down and there wasn't even an scratch.
The black coating looks pretty serious. I'm sure it performs well too. If I have any problems with this coating, I'll definitley step it up to the 2000+ coating. I enjoy the functional aspect more than the appearance aspect. The bling isn't the important part.


