Hey guys I just want peoples opinions for what they like best and what performs best for a street car / light track use. I was hoping myabe someone has ran some tests.. Should I buy meth or spray the intercooler with NOS.

Thanks guys

 

Not too many Hondas use meth, but its great. I'd get meth.

 

I would have to say meth, one it's will have a greater cooling effect, and two over time it's more reliable and cost effective!

If I feel the need to cross this road in the future I'll definitely be going the meth route!

Anthony

 

neither one will do anything for you. there are much better ways to spend your money.

intercooler sprayers only make more power when the nitrous goes through the i/c and gets sucked into the intake.

meth.. just never makes more power.

 

weird JDogg, i think cooler intake temps are a great way to increase power

 

I have to disagree Jdogg meth will alow me to run a little higer boost due to the fact it makes pump gas more like 100 octane and also Nitrous threw the IC should almost freese the air going into your intake which should unless i'm wrong increase power. I just want to know which one will work best Why do you say neaither one will do a thing for me ?

 

b16bri, i would say if u have money for both do both! i think it would only be worth while to do either if it was for a drag car, or a kit you use when ur dragging your car

 

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try telling that to the evo guys, there making tons of power on pump gas and meth...

 

Any consideration to a c02 i.c. spray setup? Cheaper than filling a nitrous bottle.

 

i would go with the meth, its proven. i would not use it to make more power however.

I have talked to a few reputable tuners about this subject, and there is one reocuring theme from all of them; Dont use it to make more power, but use it if you are pushing the limits of pump gas with your setup. Use the meth to keep detonation down, but end result is you actually do make some more power out of it due to the cooler intake temps.

I will be going this route soon here.

 

Intercooler sprayers should only be used for heatsoak. You won't get much at the end of the 1/4 mile, but you will from sitting in line for an hour or making multiple runs in 1 hour. Its cheaper to get a spray bottle and do it yourself while waiting.

In the end the meth will be more benificial. You can usually get a bit farther with pump gas with it, run a little more timing, and have a greater resistance to detonation.

Never mix the two ideas though (spray meth on the intercooler). Methanol is very corrosive to aluminum

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Intercooler sprayers should only be used for heatsoak. You won't get much at the end of the 1/4 mile, but you will from sitting in line for an hour or making multiple runs in 1 hour. Its cheaper to get a spray bottle and do it yourself while waiting.

In the end the meth will be more benificial. You can usually get a bit farther with pump gas with it, run a little more timing, and have a greater resistance to detonation.

Never mix the two ideas though (spray meth on the intercooler). Methanol is very corrosive to aluminum </TD></TR></TABLE>

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i can see the octane advantage of the meth over the n2o on the cooler.

BUT i dont like it as a bandaid.
just another thing to go wrong.

thats my opinion.

 

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BUT i dont like it as a bandaid.
just another thing to go wrong.

thats my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2 like we dont have enough things to worry about already

 

i/c spray wont lower the intake temps enough to do anything.

and meth causes more problems than it helps

 

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Do you have multiple instances where you and a large group of other people have proven this on honda engines, or(far more likely) are you simply ignorant and spewing biased bs hoping that people will blindly follow what you say due to your rep? Exactly what problems does meth cause that cant be equated to improper tuning or design?
One only needs to look to the turbo buick world to see what auxillary injection can do. Perhaps the veil of ignorance towards ai in the honda scene will lift once the bandwagon rolls around.
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and meth causes more problems than it helps</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have personally seen a dyno plot of another ITR that did the IC spray kit and made 35 more whp and more mid range when he sprayed. It will practically freeze the aluminum and the air passing through will become much cooler, hence more power. However, I agree with many that its a waste of money.

Methanol has been proven time and time again on our cars. Instead of posting things don't work, why can't you provide us with viable sources, dyno plots, etc. Check out Jeff Evans site, he has tuned several cars making great power with methanol

 

ic spray only makes big power when the engine sucks the nitrous in... on those cars that do make more power, switch to co2 and watch the motor fall on its face. been there done that

as for meth, yeah you might be able to run more boost on pump gas, but what happens when it runs out or you mix it a little different or the pump goes out. not to mention that there is no intake manifold for a honda thats designed to flow anything becides air...

 

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Runs out- driver's fault, or failure of check valve.
Pump goes out- manufacturer's fault or driver's for running the wrong stuff(and yes, my pump went out- the qc of the shurflo pumps is garbage)
Different mix- owner's fault.
IM not designed for liquid- They were'nt designed for boost or n2o either. If the liquid is atomized properly, it should'nt be a problem.

Sure, there is a chance for error with auxillary injection. It is just a few more things that can go wrong. However, none of this has to do with running ai itself, but comes about from the failure to sustain. In the early days of turbocharging, there were many failures, but people still prevailed and came to evolve their systems. It's just a risk one will have to put up with in the pursuit of power. Ai can work and work very well. The best systems are from aquamist and alkycontrol(julio don). Not out to get anyone, I'm just allergic to blanket statements.
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The winner here is....

Water Injection with a switching system to either lower boost or switch timing maps when water reserves run out.