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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Hey Vince what is the new process? Did you use the new process on the block Viren sent you for me?
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just wanted to let you all know that we have made some improvements to the install of the sleeves and that is why I can guarantee that the block we send back to him, or anyone else that get a block from us now, will NEVER have a sleeve issue EVER!!! Ask some of our customers like Import Builders. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When was this effective? I recently had a block sleeved by you so I want to know if the improvements were made to my block or not.

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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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i know on the last few i seen less silicone usage and its cleaner process. but other than that i am not sure of the details
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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yeah i just got my block back about a month ago and i dont have any of this orange crap you guys are talkin about...mines grey and looks more like JB weld.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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as for the bars leak, GE doesnt recommend using it anymore on newly sleeved blocks. Its only for blocks that have been sitting around and have lots of corrosion. At least that's what Vince told me 3 wks ago.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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Good Job!! This is the customer service I have come to expect from GE.
GE get's a big thumbs up from me.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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I called this afternoon and spoke with Ted. Very good customer service. They are going to cover the block under warrenty if they find that they are at fault. Hopefully everything from here on out is going to go smoothly for me. Its really ashame though I had the car completely done. I spent the last few days fabricating all the intercooler piping, dumptube, intercooler mounting bracket, etc. It was ready to roll and looked damn good. I have purchased three GE blocks now, I would purchase another without a blink of an eye if I needed a sleeved block again. Customer service means alot to me, especially in this situation. Although its ashame of all the labor i have been doing the past two days, you have to be prepared to anything like this to happen. I have learned to accept set backs over the years with the FI scene.

On a side note, I didnt check the dowels for the head. The head was apparently milled the slightest amount which leds to the oil/coolant mixture spewing out from the back. I will never make the mistake of not checking the dowels every again.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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Damn that really sucks.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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seems like yall make improvements all the time now. That is great. hope you continue too, but you have been claiming NO SLEEVE ISSUES for the longest time. Everyone makes mistakes...just stop claiming you are without a doubt, the best.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Well, that's my opninion. I have seen alot of blocks through here and I think that we are the best there is, hands down!!!!
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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Have you checked the block and head surfaces with a straight edge?
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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If my eyes are seeing correctly today it looks like you used factory gasket sprayed with copper spray, correct?? I have seen this many of times people don't get enough coats of the copper on it and it will leak very easily. If I was you I would go get a cometic head gasket that is made for the 84.5 mm bore instead of using a modifyed stock one. I was wondering the same thing about the coolant on top of the pistons. That sounds like the head gasket to me even if you can't tell where it was leaking doesn't mean it wasn't.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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I admire your determination. But I feel what your going through with this whole mess. I been through the same thing, excpet I beat you! I have had 2 bad blocks in a row Currently its back at GEM right now being taken care of
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Vince i hope what you say is true cause you will most likely be recieving my block next week and i really dont want to go through the troubles some of these guys have.

to GE for taking care of boosted hybrid's block
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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The headgasket is an OEM bored to 84.5mm from GE. The OEM headgaskets are the only headgaskets i will use on my personal block anymore, I have had ill experiences with three cometic headgaskets in a row. The copper spray that I applied was 5 layers thick. I applied each coat, let it get tacky, then applied each subsequent coat. The problem was that the head was milled a few thousands, the dowel pins werent milled along with the head. I didnt bother to check, and I was left with a few thousands gap that I couldnt see. This is where the coolant and oil mixture poured out the block, and why the coolant seaped into the cylinders. I have built three other blocks, non-sleeved and never had the heads milled so I didnt have to any experience or inclinations to check the dowels.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The headgasket is an OEM bored to 84.5mm from GE. The OEM headgaskets are the only headgaskets i will use on my personal block anymore, I have had ill experiences with three cometic headgaskets in a row. The copper spray that I applied was 5 layers thick. I applied each coat, let it get tacky, then applied each subsequent coat. The problem was that the head was milled a few thousands, the dowel pins werent milled along with the head. I didnt bother to check, and I was left with a few thousands gap that I couldnt see. This is where the coolant and oil mixture poured out the block, and why the coolant seaped into the cylinders. I have built three other blocks, non-sleeved and never had the heads milled so I didnt have to any experience or inclinations to check the dowels.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A few thousands seriously would not have done that! Now if you went 10 to 20 thousandths then we aretalking about milling the dowels, I don't fell or at least think(and I could be wrong) that that little bit of material caused THIS PROBLEM. Good luck anyways.
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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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When I spoke with Ted this afternoon he mentioned that the dowel situation, in conjunction with the sleeves leaking was the cause of the problem.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 01:10 AM
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 04:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I spoke with Ted this afternoon he mentioned that the dowel situation, in conjunction with the sleeves leaking was the cause of the problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I buit a motor for a guy and this happened as well. He brought me all the parts and I did the assembly. We ran the motor and eventually coolant seaped into the cylinders along with oil. We tried copper spray, cometic gaskets....come to find out, the head was milled and the dowels were not. That was the only thing wrong with it.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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That's interesting because I only used 1-layer OEM gasket with copper spray
and my dowls are stock not shaved. don't have any seal or coolant problem.
my sleeves are stock.
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