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Old May 24, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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Hi I'm new to forced induction and I have a few questions to people that might be more familiar with my current build then I am. Basically I had a N/A ls vtec built and decided I wanted to build a turbo set up my questions are will my cams and valves be ok with forced induction. Current components are the following.
B18A1 block, B18B1 crank, weisco 11:5:1 pistons changing them to 10:2:1, eagle H beam rods, blox block guard. Procomp P1r head fully P&P with fierra valve train and 6000 series valves. Sk2 pro2 cams, sk2 cam gears, precision 310 injectors, walbro 255 fuel pump, sk2 composite fuel rail, Sk2 2 3/4" exhaust from header back.
Basically I'm wondering if the cams are gonna be way to big with a turbo set up and hurt hp gains my goal is about 280-300 whp. As far as turbo set up goes I was thinking garrett T304E hybrid 63 trim with a basic cast log style manifold for now. I know to make my goal I need to up the injectors but if any one could give me advice with what I'v got that would be great. Basically I wanna know if I can reach my goals with those cams or if different cams would be more efficient, what size injectors should I run and also are the 6000 series valves strictly N/A or will they work for what I'm trying to do. Also I'm running it off of 91 octane no e85 or race gas
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Old May 24, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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definitely swap out the cams, nothing larger than type r cams.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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I would recomend running a set of camshaft specific to turbo application. It will help you generate more power efficiently as well help with turbo spool and carry a much better power band

This is a tuning of a our customers street civic made 635whp with over 420 ft/lbs of torque on a very simple turbo setup! This street car has an AEM EMS, Bisimoto Level 2.4 camshafts, Bisimoto cam gears, and Bisimoto Pro spring and titanium retainer kit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZo_2aLw0Q
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Old May 24, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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thanks alot guys I figured I would need different cams
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Old May 24, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Julio@Bisimoto
I would recomend running a set of camshaft specific to turbo application. It will help you generate more power efficiently as well help with turbo spool and carry a much better power band

This is a tuning of a our customers street civic made 635whp with over 420 ft/lbs of torque on a very simple turbo setup! This street car has an AEM EMS, Bisimoto Level 2.4 camshafts, Bisimoto cam gears, and Bisimoto Pro spring and titanium retainer kit.
What would they do over TypeR cams or GSR ones?
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Old May 24, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
What would they do over TypeR cams or GSR ones?
Hard to determine exact numbers since everyone has a different setups but we are comparing a set of camshafts that were designed for stock all motor factory setup compared to a set of camshafts that have been researched and developed specifically for turbo use.

With a proper set of turbo camshafts it will actually help aid with turbo spool, power delivery and be much more efficient!

Here are the same set of Bisimoto 2.4 camshafts with Bisimoto valvetrain on a race car I used to race a while back!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLOeD4-e8o
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Old May 24, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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What is the powerband of those cams and driveability? I'm glad you guys are doing a comparison! When will the results be out?
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Old May 24, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
What is the powerband of those cams and driveability? I'm glad you guys are doing a comparison! When will the results be out?
Lol I think you miss understood what I meant about what I wrote about comparing the two different types of camshafts.

What I meant it is basically comparing apples to oranges between ITR's and true turbo camshafts

Camshafts that were designed from the factory work best for one thing when Camshafts designed for turbo are engineered completely different to focus on certain key points in order to get more out of a turbo setup

Bisimoto does offer a few different Levels for more choices:

Bisimoto Level 1.2 is catered for setups more intended for street/strip use has extremely good drivability and offers a nice power band overall from 4k rpm and up.

Bisimoto Level 2.4 is for race use or a street guys who are really trying to make big power and has more of a higher rpm power-band. You can get away with drivability on the street but will have a bit more loopy idle

Bisimoto Level 3.6 with custom rocker arms which is a no compromise full race camshafts with vtec killer profiles which is what that red Integra in the video switch to and made more power than the Level 2.4 with less boost but of course drivability on the street with a very loopy idle not really that great and intended for very high rpm power-band
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Old May 25, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ppiart
Sk2 pro2 cams, sk2 cam gears, precision 310 injectors, walbro 255 fuel pump,
those injectors are way too small for your goal. theyll probably run out around 220 whp. 550cc is a good choice if you are only going for 300, if you want more then run 750cc's
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Old May 26, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Julio@Bisimoto
Bisimoto Level 1.2 is catered for setups more intended for street/strip use has extremely good drivability and offers a nice power band overall from 4k rpm and up.
I would love to see a back to back on the same car with these cams, gsr cams, and then itr cams. The 1.2 level sounds really good!
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