TurboT

Since I joined this board awhile ago, I know you guys are the most mature out of any other HT board. This is why I want your honest opinions.

i've setup a couple choices below...

as you guys know, i'm trying to sell my car. I need to sell it because I really want to pay off my debts and start fixing up my house. With this car, I can't. Maybe later on, I will get something new and start fixing it up again.

If you were looking to buy a car and were also planning on fixing it up, which route would you prefer? Which setup of the car would allow the car to be sold faster? <U>Please don't vote what would be best for me, rather... vote according to what you would buy if you were searching for a car</U>

the choices below:

1) Virtually Stock - minor mods, but stock GSR motor and tranny. Basically as stock I can get it to be. The problem with putting the car to full stock is that I changed the fuel lines in the car with braided teflon hosing. So, the car cannot be taken or traded into the dealership.
Minor mods include - apexi n1 exhaust, aem CAI, vis coilovers, kyb shocks, autometer fuel pressure gauge, aem fuel rail, aem fpr, front / rear / rear lower bars.

2) Built engine - as per https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=152308





[Modified by TurboT, 8:27 AM 4/4/2002]

TurboT

actually, forgot to add one more option...


3) with a turbo kit installed and tuned to run 10 psi - $18k

TurboT

feel free to leave me comments

thanks!

RGAZ

IMO

A car with any tuner parts, turbo, or aftermarket parts will be viewed by me as being beat. If you put race parts on it, you must be racing it, right? I would pay LESS for a built car since I know it was beat.

Who here builds up a motor and turbo and then drives it like a grandma? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Also, unless you can prove the build-up I always say it wasn't done. If I don't see a receipt signed by the rebuilder referring to the engine block number. It can be totally BS. Unless I know the person or car, I would treat as if it was a beat stock car.

Sorry, but its a buyers market out there and there are way more stock cars to choose from and negotiate a better price. With the economy down people are desperate for cash and you can really get a good deal if you are a buyer.

Not really what you wanted to hear, but hey, its a dog-eat-dog world. Get used to it.

Randy

TurboT

eh....

so what are you saying?
option 1?

?????

dbman96

I think that most of US would like to buy it built... but we are a VERY SMALL minority in the car buying public. If you reduced it to stock engine w/ bolt-on mods as you described it would be more desireable to like 98% of buyers. You can get more parting out your nice stuff anyway.

Xerxes

in general i would prefer virtually stock, but reading through your other post and all your mods, i would much rather buy a car that's already fully built like that, especially with a brand new engine. PLUS i think you should sell it that way, as it's an excellent package. If i lived closer to chicago i would consider it, since i've always wanted an integra instead of a civic

-Xerxes

bruthaboost

I think most of the driving population perfer stock cars and they usually have no idea exactly whats going on internally meaning they are generally ignorant of the inner workings. Moreover, people tend to go with what they know and that would by stock. Your mods would be lost on them. If you try to sell it built, you will have seriously cut your available pool of buyers.

pkripper

It is very hard to say it is oviously more apealing when it is in its beastly stage fully built but the problum is not very many people can just wip out the top doller for a toy that is way to nice to just drive to work everyday. I would say you could make more money selling all your parts and giting like 14-16k for just a lightly modded car.
well let me know if you do that i get first dibs on all your parts

dustin

Hmm, I would definately want the car bone stock.

As much as I like you TurboT ( ), I think most people want to do the work themselves.

Granted, you could probably find some very happy riceboy running around that would take the car modified... but I doubt this is the sort of person that would appreciate the amount of effort put into your car.

Dustin

lucas569

i'll prolly get flamed for this but imo if i was going to buy a car that i wanted to sell later and not take a huge loss due to the mods i would by an older mitsu turbo eclipse. they're easy as hell to make fast w/ very little money and mods.

TurboT

what i'll probably end up doing is option 1....

put the car back as far stock as possible...

sell it for $14k...

41k miles, $14k.... that's pretty reasonable..

now do you guys want to see the stuff i have forsale?

lucas569

hells ya, post it up...what do you think of buying an oem turboed car?

dustin

Yes part it out and sell the cool stuff to us..

lucas569

bwaaaahhaha dustin, i just noticed your sig funny ****,lol

chri5

I would take it with the engine, since that is basically what I would do if I were going to build hte engine anyway.

TurboT

1) Golden Eagle Manufacturing sleeved GSR block, Bored 85mm cylinders, Jet washed block, Stepped deck cylinder for better gasket mating, JE 85mm 10.5:1 compression pistons, JE XC rings, Crower forged rods, New Honda bearings, Blueprinted, ITR oil pump, ITR oil pan, new oil pick up, new seals and gaskets, Cometic 85mm head gasket, ARP head studs, Portflow ported and polished 2000 b16a2 head, Portflow outter and inner upgrade valve springs, Portflow Ti retainers, 1mm oversized Ferrea stainless steel exhaust valves, 85mm Portflow combustion chamber rework, GSR water pump, ITR timing belt, ITR exhaust camshaft, ITR intake camshaft, STR race silver cam gear, ITR intake manifold portmatched to the Portflow head, ITR throttle cable, ITR throttle body, ITR valve cover (cut for cam gears), 0 miles on this thing
2) Wings West W-type kit, needs painting
3) JDM ITR steering wheel
4) JDM ITR badge plate
5) JDM ITR shift boot, red stiching
6) JDM ITR clock blockoff plate
7) Autometer phantom fuel pressure gauge (excellent condition)
8) Sparco pedal covers, silver aluminum (brand new)
9) Spoon carbon fiber spark plug wire cover (brand new)
10) Energy Suspension engine mount inserts
11) Prothane engine mount insert set
12) C&R radiator with Spal fan
13) ITR flywheel with pilot bearing (brand new)
14) Clutchnet stage 3 cluch kit (brand new)
15) 2000 GSR tranny with KAAZ differential (excellent condition, only 7k miles on diff)
16) Clutchmaster's Aluminum Flywheel (brand new)
17) Apexi Power FC ECU (excellent condition)
18) Apexi Power FC handheld commander (excellent condition)
19) RC550cc injectors (brand new, with clips)
20) Climax blue anodized fuel rail, 3/8" NPT on both ends
21) Paxton signature series fuel pressure regulator with fittings
22) Clifford Inteliguard alarm
23) DEI remote window roll up and roll down control (brand new)
24) Reinforced cable hood lock system (brand new)
25) Fastrax T3/T4 .63 a/r, stage 3 exhaust wheel, 60-1 trim
26) MaxRev stainless steel manifold polished
27) 40mm Tial wastegate with .70 bar spring, new flanges
28) 2 1/2" downpipe
29) 3" downpipe, thermal wrapped with flexpipe
30) 1 1/2" dumptube with flexpipe extension
31) Greddy oil block adapter
32) Silicon tubing, coupling, and hose clamps
33) Greddy 60mm white a/f gauge with peak/hold (brand new)
34) Greddy 60mm white egt gauge with peak/hold (brand new)
35) Greddy 52mm black electronic oil pressure gauge (brand new)
36) Greddy 52mm black electronic water temperature gauge (brand new)
37) Greddy 60mm gauge mount (2)
38) Del Sol seats with grey stripe mounted to GSR brackets (excellent condition)
39) Autometer gauge bezel fits two 2 1/16" or 52mm gauges (excellent condition)
40) z10 DC2 traction bar setup (brand new)
41) JAZ catch canMagnecore spark plug wires
42) Spoon thermostat
43) Spoon oil drain plug
44) Spoon transmission drain plug
45) Spline Drive black set of 16 with key
46) Earls -10 straight fittings
47) Earls -10 90 degree fittings
48) Earls -10 120 degree fittings
49) Earls -10 to 1/2" NPT steel fittings, straight, 45, and 90 angles
50) Earls -10 to 3/8" NPT aluminum fittings, straight, 45, and 90 angles
51) Earls -10 to -10 fittings
52) Earls -10 to -8 fittings
53) Earls -8 straight fittings
54) Earls -8 45 degree fittings
55) Earls -8 90 degree fittings
56) Earls -8 120 degree fittings
57) Earls -8 to -8 fittings
58) Earls -8 to 1/2" NPT aluminum fittings, straight, 45, and 90 angles
59) Earls -8 to 3/8" NPT aluminum fittings, straight, 45, and 90 angles
60) Earls -8 to 3/8" NPT with 1/8" NPT gauge port
61) Earls -6 straight fittings
62) Earls -6 45 degree fittings
63) Earls -6 90 degree fittings
64) Earls -6 to 1/4" NPT aluminum fitting
65) Earls -6 to 3/8" NPT aluminum fitting
66) Earls -6 and -8 bulkhead fittings
67) Earls -10 plugs
68) 3" Flexpipe
69) Intake and Exhaust 2000 b16a2 cams with gears
70) Honda injector resistor pack
71) 2 1/2", 2 1/4", and 3" mandrel bent piping
72) 1998 Acura Integra stock fenders with side markers
73) 1998 Acura Integra stock hood
74) 1998 Acura stock amber front turn lights
75) Set of stock b16a2 and b18c1 valve springs and retainers
76) 2 1/2" silicon turbo pipe couplers
77) 2 1/4" silicon turbo pipe couplers
78) 3" silicon turbo pipe couplers
79) Greddy block oil adapter

the list goes on and on...


[Modified by TurboT, 12:02 PM 4/4/2002]

TurboT

ne1?

pkripper

let me know when the stuff is for sale and i am on my way to your house.
i want that motor.

Dublocivic

If you are trying to fix up your house.. you know damn well that once you start boosting your going to want to increase a little here and a little there... "oh well it wont hurt a thing if I get some 720's and turn it up a little"
If you have enough self control you may be able to pull it off.
-OR-
You could just sell crack instead of your car.

justinCO

(in his best Kenny [Half Baked] voice)

That's it?


I'd be interested in some parts...if the price is right.

Justin

Ricky Rojales

If knew you personally, or through a good friend who I felt was a good judgement of character, I'd buy the car from you built, but...

Otherwise I would choose stock... and even in that case I would be more apprehensive due to the possibility of the car having an unstellar prior history. Even the title alone doesn't always reveal the complete and total truth. My car has stuff done to it that never went on record. This of course comes from the perspective of a buyer who has no prior knowledge of the owner or the car's history.

HTH

Buy the way, glad to hear you have your priorities on order...
Eliminating debt and Investing in your home first gets


[Modified by Fluoxetine HCL, 6:46 PM 4/4/2002]

Adi Radoncic

I know what I want out of that list....!!

Adi

TurboITR

terry - empty your hotmail box I cant send you an email telling you what i am going to buy

TurboT

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