How much boost with this setup??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:15 AM
  #1  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default How much boost with this setup??

1991 Integra LS
B16
T3/T4B
Vafc
Inline fuel pump
450CC DSM's
Fuel Rail
FMU 12:1
Sleeved
Rods
Pistons
Intake Manifold
valves/valve springs/retainers
Bronze valve guides
Block guard
Stock Compression
How much boost is possible on this setup?
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:21 AM
  #2  
B18c1turboedEK's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,984
Likes: 0
From: Turbo land, GA, USA
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

IF your block has all that the skys the limit.....I would say 20 plus...
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:25 AM
  #3  
liam821's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
25 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,749
Likes: 26
From: Portland, OR
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (Koticcivic4u)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Koticcivic4u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IF your block has all that the skys the limit.....I would say 20 plus...</TD></TR></TABLE>

uhhh nnooooo. Lets see 12:1 fmu at 20psi of boost, thats 12psi per 1psi of boost so 20x12=240 plus the base 40psi...so yea... 280psi of fuel pressure. NICE

I wouldnt run over 10psi with a FMU its just wrong.

You spent all that money on a nice block and turbo setup...spend another $400 and get a hondata (or whatever you fancy)!! Fuel management is key in a happy turbo honda period.

liam
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:33 AM
  #4  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

Couldn't I trim that with the VAFC?? Don't understand the fuel part too well.

And I have a preobd engine so I would have to swap distributor and ecu too wouldn't I?? That knocks it up too a grand + with tuning.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:34 AM
  #5  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

What did people do that wanted to run higher boost than 10psi do before hondata??
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:36 AM
  #6  
B18c1turboedEK's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,984
Likes: 0
From: Turbo land, GA, USA
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

My bad didnt see he was running an FMU, man trust me Hondata s200 with BOOST and youll be very happy...
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:40 AM
  #7  
liam821's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
25 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,749
Likes: 26
From: Portland, OR
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

Checkout http://www.zdyne.com/, they have an obd0 boost friendly ecu.

And before a hondata/zdyne etc, they used aftermarket ecus like a speedpro, haltech, tec, etc

liam
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:40 AM
  #8  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (Koticcivic4u)

I know but after spending all that jack another grand's gonna hurt me. Would I have to switch distributor and ecu for hondata s200????
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:46 AM
  #9  
liam821's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
25 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,749
Likes: 26
From: Portland, OR
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spacetuna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Couldn't I trim that with the VAFC?? Don't understand the fuel part too well.

And I have a preobd engine so I would have to swap distributor and ecu too wouldn't I?? That knocks it up too a grand + with tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

12:1 is a static 12:1 ratio fuel pressure raiser. They cant be adjusted with vafc. However total fuel into the engine can be played with...but its gonna be pretty ruff tuning. Thats why i recommend not going over 10psi with a fmu..its just not very good fuel control.

liam
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:48 AM
  #10  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

Thanks for the link... What would I get rid of if I used an programmed ecu?? The FMU and the Vafc? Could I use the DSM injectors?
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:05 AM
  #11  
mos's Avatar
mos
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,720
Likes: 0
From: 90210, CA, usa
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spacetuna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the link... What would I get rid of if I used an programmed ecu?? The FMU and the Vafc? Could I use the DSM injectors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya. Either way you're gonna need larger injectors than stock to run 20psi.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:15 AM
  #12  
liam821's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
25 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,749
Likes: 26
From: Portland, OR
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (mos)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ya. Either way you're gonna need larger injectors than stock to run 20psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:57 AM
  #13  
PM-Performance's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 12,978
Likes: 1
From: Reading, PA, usa
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (liam821)

anyone else notice he has sleeves and a blockgaurd?
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:00 AM
  #14  
b20turboic's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
From: Gbg, Pa, USA
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (itr206)

i run zdyne gold in my turbo b20 unsleeved and its fine ... worth all the money for us 88-91 guys
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:02 AM
  #15  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (b20turboic)

Cool, I'll look into the Zdyne. What was the total cost??

The blockguard is currently on my motor and I'm adding the sleeves, rods, pistons. Forgot to take it off.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:29 AM
  #16  
FlySi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: Brighton, Mi, USA
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spacetuna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What did people do that wanted to run higher boost than 10psi do before hondata??</TD></TR></TABLE>

speedpro
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 12:26 PM
  #17  
spacetuna's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral, FL, US
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (FlySi)

Is there anyway to run boost higher than 10psi with the vafc and DSM injectors?? Could I use check valves or a GM sensor to trick the computer???
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 02:18 PM
  #18  
b18b98's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
From: NJ, USA
Default Re: How much boost with this setup?? (spacetuna)

Talk to jinxproof or autoexturbo. They both ran that setup pushing close to 1 bar.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BB6-213
Honda Prelude
14
Jun 9, 2004 03:02 PM
k20em2
Forced Induction
4
Jul 21, 2003 02:52 PM
DLB1994
Forced Induction
15
Jun 2, 2002 07:01 PM
InfamousRS
Forced Induction
16
Oct 15, 2001 04:36 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:31 AM.