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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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so i recently helped my friend turbo his d16 with a supra ct26 turbo. We are having major fuel/spark issues and i have some questions about it. First he went one step colder with the plugs over stock and gap to .038. We recently put in DSM 450CC injectors with a resitor box but it seems as tho the car is flooding itself out at idle. It will drive fine untill boost starts to build and then its almost like a extremely bad missfire. Could it b that the fuel is blowing out the spark? Plz help thank you.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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sorry d16z6 sohc vtec 1.6
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Search then tune.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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I'm guessing that...

1) you are running the stock ecu, meant for 240cc injectors
2) are running a stock fuel pressure regulator, and no FMU
3) have no real clue about forced induction, ignition, etc


1) You 'simplistic' MAP-based ecu makes fuel corrections at partial throttle to a certain extent - 320cc injectors are considered the biggest you can use to idle on a stock bin. WOT is where you have the issues - your ecu reads directly from the fuel maps, meaning it is HIGHLY LIKELY to be very far off from an ideal AFR.

2) no fmu and no ecu tuning with a map-based setup is just dumb. even the primitive afc hack is better.

3) WOT is rougly 14.7psi [above absolute vacuum] at sea level, normally less due to elevation. When you add 6-10psi (differential, ie 6-10 above outside atmosphere) with a turbo (~14+~7=~21, 50% more air), you have a air/fuel mixture roughly 1.5 times more dense. In a typical turbo'd combustion chamber you need a richer mixture than usual, meaning its about 1.5-2 times harder for a spark to jump across the plug. That means your two options are - double the power sent through the plug or reduce the gap by one half. Guess which one is easiest...
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