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Old 01-16-2003, 06:58 AM
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HI,

What would be ur choices to build this block. In addition to pistons and rods?
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I forgot to mention, so that I can run high boost in access of 20psi
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Default Re: Help with building B18C5 (swlabhot)

O-ring it too. Don't forget either Adj. cam gears or swapping those cams. Not much more to say seeing as how you have no idea what your doing.

I woundn't buy a B18c5 for just turboing it especially if your building it right away. Anyways if you drop your compresion it's pointless to use a Type-R just to say you have a Type-R block? What's your reasoning do you already have the block?

Also I forgot to mention the PSI only matters with the sleeves if you know how to tune it right.


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Old 01-16-2003, 09:34 AM
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Type r is the gangster **** man!!! I personally like the type r swap for turboing. The head and intake manifold are better than gsr. the crank and flywheel is lighter from the factory. I'm not positive but i think th water pump and oil pump is designed for more power. I am not a type r enthusiast but there are a ton more things that make it better than a gsr for sure. By the way i run type r cams w/ stock cam gears in mine not gsr. Sleeve it and go 84 mm and you will make some serious power!!
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motor matrix knows his ****
the Type R cams are very good and i know plenty of people pumping a **** load of power with em . . . tuning is key.
i wonder how much boost though it would handle on stock compression , but with forged internals and sleeved? i wanna keep my stock compresion in mine just to prove everyone wrong about Type r compression is bad for turbo .
what you think matrix?
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Yes, I've got a Teg Type-R hence B18C5. At the moment I'm running a wet NOS kit on it with 75 shot. I'm gonna be keeping this hence would need to strenghten the block as well as I'll be putting in a T3/T04e.

Hope I should be OK on 10psi intially but once its run in, I'll start on building internals before I up the boost and use NOS against those big booosters. Just wondering its just piston, rods and sleeving is all I need for bulletproofing
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10 psi can be done on stock internals, with the right tuning . but watch out for the addition of juice, it might blow.
id wait till after the internals are done to juice it .
but im working on 8psi for street and 10 psi for track on stock internals and some good tuning
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Wot turbo and management are you using?
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motor matrix knows his ****
the Type R cams are very good and i know plenty of people pumping a **** load of power with em . . . tuning is key.
i wonder how much boost though it would handle on stock compression , but with forged internals and sleeved? i wanna keep my stock compresion in mine just to prove everyone wrong about Type r compression is bad for turbo .
what you think matrix?
You can get away with stock compression no problem as long as you have forged pistons, rods and sleeves. you will make a ton of power at low boost. Just make sure you run atleast a hondata. Bring it down even to 10:1. it will still make a ton of power. My new setup is going to be an 84mm type r motor at 10:1.
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mmmm i like that , i rather have more compression and less boost to tell you the truth. . . i dont wanna take mine to 9:1 and have to boost 20psi to make the same pwoer as my 10:6 at 12psi or so . . or wghatever

Im running Hondata 4b for management
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bye the way the type R crank is actually heavier then a gsr(about 8 pounds heavier), and its the best counterbalanced crank of the hondas. excellent choice for high rpms.
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you may be right about the balance of the crank for sure but i could swear i read the weights somewhere and the type r was lighter.
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put the cranks side by side and you will see a huge difference. type R flywheel is lighter though. that added weight in counterbalancing helps for revs. its crazy what honda had to do to make the b18c5 rev past the gsr.
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mmmm i like that , i rather have more compression and less boost to tell you the truth. . .
high compression with boost can be very dangerous when tuning due to less play with your timing
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Default Re: Help with building B18C5 (MotorMatrix.com)

the crank in the type r is heavier
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key is good tuning . just play with the timing conservatively.
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Default Re: Help with building B18C5 (itr206)

Been running my Stock motor'd R with turbo for 5000 miles and 5 month of beating at 10psi and no problem. Dont let it knock.

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i dunno too much, but i do know the type r has a better head than the gsr for boosting, if i were gonna build a turbo teg, i would do the b18c5 as opposed to teh b18c1 and swap out pistons for the compression. the type r to me is like a more powerful gsr and also high comp, just lower the compression to at least that of a gsr and i would think its more reliable
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