GT4094R Specifications and Use
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GT4094R Specifications and Use
I have a chance to pick one of these up new, and reasonably priced but am new to turbos, and this is all I can find on it and It is not listed on their website
part number 751470-5019
performance rating: 450 - 800 HP
recommended displacement: 2,0 - 6,0L
compressor: inlet 67,8mm / outlet 94,0mm / trim 52 / 0,72ar
turbine: diameter 77,0mm / trim 78 / 0,85ar / external wastegate
- dual ball bearing
- oil and water cooled bearing system
- High-Flow-compressor housing
- directly with GT4088R interchangable
is this going to be a decent street turbo on a k20 in a crx? or should I keep looking
part number 751470-5019
performance rating: 450 - 800 HP
recommended displacement: 2,0 - 6,0L
compressor: inlet 67,8mm / outlet 94,0mm / trim 52 / 0,72ar
turbine: diameter 77,0mm / trim 78 / 0,85ar / external wastegate
- dual ball bearing
- oil and water cooled bearing system
- High-Flow-compressor housing
- directly with GT4088R interchangable
is this going to be a decent street turbo on a k20 in a crx? or should I keep looking
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A GT40 frame turbo for a "street" CRX at 700+whp...
Jesus christ dude.
Jesus christ dude.
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When you mean "More" for next year. What do you mean? What you're referring to is the GT4094R, and is a great turbocharger for over 700whp with it's 77mm turbine profile. However, there are a lot of other alternatives that can easily make that power and more. Whether it be from Garrett, one of its derivatives, or Borg-Warner, you can't go wrong..
Check here in the FAQs on the more recent catalogs and sizes (highlighted in blue). Once you've narrowed a few down andgive us a bit more information about your setup and true goals, we can be of much more assistance.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced...2A%2A-1024174/
Check here in the FAQs on the more recent catalogs and sizes (highlighted in blue). Once you've narrowed a few down andgive us a bit more information about your setup and true goals, we can be of much more assistance.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced...2A%2A-1024174/
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I have a chance to pick one of these up new, and reasonably priced but am new to turbos, and this is all I can find on it and It is not listed on their website
part number 751470-5019
performance rating: 450 - 800 HP
recommended displacement: 2,0 - 6,0L
compressor: inlet 67,8mm / outlet 94,0mm / trim 52 / 0,72ar
turbine: diameter 77,0mm / trim 78 / 0,85ar / external wastegate
- dual ball bearing
- oil and water cooled bearing system
- High-Flow-compressor housing
- directly with GT4088R interchangable
is this going to be a decent street turbo on a k20 in a crx? or should I keep looking
part number 751470-5019
performance rating: 450 - 800 HP
recommended displacement: 2,0 - 6,0L
compressor: inlet 67,8mm / outlet 94,0mm / trim 52 / 0,72ar
turbine: diameter 77,0mm / trim 78 / 0,85ar / external wastegate
- dual ball bearing
- oil and water cooled bearing system
- High-Flow-compressor housing
- directly with GT4088R interchangable
is this going to be a decent street turbo on a k20 in a crx? or should I keep looking
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guess I left out some needed info.
The car was originally built to autox, and was a class leader. By street car, I really mean I like to drive it to local races, shows, events, but it is far from a daily driver. last year I clocked roughly 1k miles total. I take it to the drag strip occasionally, but I really want to get into roll racing this time. It is 1850 lbs before I started this swap,, and I'm in process of putting a k20 in it, That will be this years motor, non sleeved, with next years plan to either get it sleeved, or buy an erl sleeved k24, that my buddy who drags has as one of his spares. I also am going to do a 4 piston head, and depending on how busy work is, I would like to get a quaiffe sequential.
in saying I want 700 whp, I'm not expecting to do that on pump gas, I figure 4-450 on pump would be enough, to be fun on the street, but my goal is 700 on race gas for when I go racing, and then next years goal is 1k whp.
The reason I am asking about this particular turbo is the deal I can get on it, new. at 1g, Canadian, for a bb dual scroll, that seems to be pretty cheap for the potential with my limited understanding. This isn't a moneys no object project, but I own my house, own my toys, so aside from everyday living expenses it is just time it takes to raise the cash to buy parts
The car was originally built to autox, and was a class leader. By street car, I really mean I like to drive it to local races, shows, events, but it is far from a daily driver. last year I clocked roughly 1k miles total. I take it to the drag strip occasionally, but I really want to get into roll racing this time. It is 1850 lbs before I started this swap,, and I'm in process of putting a k20 in it, That will be this years motor, non sleeved, with next years plan to either get it sleeved, or buy an erl sleeved k24, that my buddy who drags has as one of his spares. I also am going to do a 4 piston head, and depending on how busy work is, I would like to get a quaiffe sequential.
in saying I want 700 whp, I'm not expecting to do that on pump gas, I figure 4-450 on pump would be enough, to be fun on the street, but my goal is 700 on race gas for when I go racing, and then next years goal is 1k whp.
The reason I am asking about this particular turbo is the deal I can get on it, new. at 1g, Canadian, for a bb dual scroll, that seems to be pretty cheap for the potential with my limited understanding. This isn't a moneys no object project, but I own my house, own my toys, so aside from everyday living expenses it is just time it takes to raise the cash to buy parts
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^Ah. I'd say go for it then, for drag racing or roll that should be great for 700+ wheel. $1K new is a good deal on it too.
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GTX3576R, (Gen I or Gen II), GT3588R Interceptors, GTX3582R (Gen 1 or Gen 2), Turbonetic 62mm series, BW362, or BWEFR 6190, etc. Lots and lots of great options out there. start checking them out. There's no "one size fits all when it comes to turbo selection.Anything about 70lbs/min-80lbs/min will work.
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So this is a three stage plan:
1) stock sleeves what ever power pump gas for now
2) sleeving the engine 700whp later
3) ***** deep 1k hp to the tyre.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ill tell you what I would do.
About 1) :Get a K20A2 instead of forging a stock sleve K engine. It will do stock internals 450 to the tyre EASY.Get a good manifold that you will use again later(id use a divided t4 manifold since you might reuse this mani for the 2) and 3) build)
Get a cheap 450-500 hp 600-700-800$ turbo you will sell later.The oldest technology proper sized turbo will be better from a 700whp turbo that will be used for 400whp.
If i were in the states id use the silversurfer from TheShodan(awesome performance).Also roll racing requires small turbo because the turbo needs some time to build boost.And if you ever try to race someone on 2nd gear with a 700 whp turbo youll never hit boost.Small turbo high boost cars will destroy you.
About 2) 3): Since id assume you dont own a bank you can try to buy once here.What i mean:
Get the pistons c.r. and size you will use with the 1000hp engine, get the rods you plan on using for the big engine, and sleeve the engine for 1000+ hp once.
Id use a K24 block but you can make 1000hp with the 88mm 2.1L using the k20 block you allready have.
I think since you like 4pistons you can buy a 1000++hp ready shortblock for something like 4-5k $ from them.Slap the very good k20a2 head you allready have and
you are ready for 700-800 whp.Again intercooler size and piping get them for 1000hp at once.
Crx is a roll race KILLER with 5.85 CdA (one of the best on mass production cars EVER). If i would choose a car for roll race thats the chassis i would choose.
Also you will need a racelogic traction controll( gl finding one) or other way to controll power on the wheels and a way to build boost like rolling antilag.
¬¬¬¬¬¬Be prepared for what a 1000whp transmition costs are before you do anything.
1) stock sleeves what ever power pump gas for now
2) sleeving the engine 700whp later
3) ***** deep 1k hp to the tyre.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ill tell you what I would do.
About 1) :Get a K20A2 instead of forging a stock sleve K engine. It will do stock internals 450 to the tyre EASY.Get a good manifold that you will use again later(id use a divided t4 manifold since you might reuse this mani for the 2) and 3) build)
Get a cheap 450-500 hp 600-700-800$ turbo you will sell later.The oldest technology proper sized turbo will be better from a 700whp turbo that will be used for 400whp.
If i were in the states id use the silversurfer from TheShodan(awesome performance).Also roll racing requires small turbo because the turbo needs some time to build boost.And if you ever try to race someone on 2nd gear with a 700 whp turbo youll never hit boost.Small turbo high boost cars will destroy you.
About 2) 3): Since id assume you dont own a bank you can try to buy once here.What i mean:
Get the pistons c.r. and size you will use with the 1000hp engine, get the rods you plan on using for the big engine, and sleeve the engine for 1000+ hp once.
Id use a K24 block but you can make 1000hp with the 88mm 2.1L using the k20 block you allready have.
I think since you like 4pistons you can buy a 1000++hp ready shortblock for something like 4-5k $ from them.Slap the very good k20a2 head you allready have and
you are ready for 700-800 whp.Again intercooler size and piping get them for 1000hp at once.
Crx is a roll race KILLER with 5.85 CdA (one of the best on mass production cars EVER). If i would choose a car for roll race thats the chassis i would choose.
Also you will need a racelogic traction controll( gl finding one) or other way to controll power on the wheels and a way to build boost like rolling antilag.
¬¬¬¬¬¬Be prepared for what a 1000whp transmition costs are before you do anything.
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About 1) :Get a K20A2 instead of forging a stock sleve K engine. It will do stock internals 450 to the tyre EASY.
not understanding this comment. do you mean get a k20a2 instead of putting forged pistons in? if so is a k20 z3 equivalent to a k20a2 for strength of bottom end?
If i were in the states id use the silversurfer from TheShodan(awesome performance).
can you pm me a link?
Also you will need a racelogic traction controll( gl finding one) or other way to controll power on the wheels and a way to build boost like rolling antilag
.
¬¬¬¬¬¬Be prepared for what a 1000whp transmition costs are before you do anything.
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<br /><br />not understanding this comment. do you mean get a k20a2 instead of putting forged pistons in? if so is a k20 z3 equivalent to a k20a2 for strength of bottom end?<br /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Yes there are A LOT 100% stock longblock k20a2/k20z4 (type R) that hit 500 easy.Some more but hide it.Im not sure about the american z3/z1 but id suspect its the same internals.</span><br /><br /><br /><br />can you pm me a link?<br /><br /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Ask TheShodan here (or google STC TURBO) but unfortunately silver surfer wont come in T4 divided (remember the mani youll keep for ever)<br />Ask him for other options.<br /><br /><br />If you ask me both these are reliable will make the job done cheap enought to change them later for the big boy.Also will work with the T4 divided manifold:</span><strong><br /><a href="https://tinyurl.com/r3n66gf">https://tinyurl.com/r3n66gf</a></strong><strong><br /><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yx83mytx">https://tinyurl.com/yx83mytx</a></strong><br />And here is the big boy <a href="https://dpraceparts.com/products/borgwarner-s400sx-71mm-turbo-s372?variant=201296992">https://dpraceparts.com/products/borgwarner-s400sx-71mm-turbo-s372?variant=201296992</a><br />Or get the 2017 catalogue here againa lot very high hp options without breaking the bank <a href="http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/aftermarket/downloads.aspx?doctype=16">http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/aftermarket/downloads.aspx?doctype=16</a><br /><br /><br /><strong>have an infinity waiting to go in, which has both options</strong><br /><br /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Does infinity has zero fuel compressions like racelogic?? I dont know a lot about infinity.</span><br /><br /><strong>I know, 10-12g's
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Is it me or my reply got asdfed
wtf is this " </strong> "
EDIT: I had a copy in my browser.If i violated a forum rule tell me.For now ill paste my comment.
not understanding this comment. do you mean get a k20a2 instead of putting forged pistons in? if so is a k20 z3 equivalent to a k20a2 for strength of bottom end?
Yes there are A LOT 100% stock longblock k20a2/k20z4 (type R) that hit 500 easy.Some more but hide it.Im not sure about the american z3/z1 but id suspect its the same internals.
can you pm me a link?
Ask TheShodan here (or google STC TURBO) but unfortunately silver surfer wont come in T4 divided (remember the mani youll keep for ever)
Ask him for other options.
If you ask me both these are reliable will make the job done cheap enought to change them later for the big boy.Also will work with the T4 divided manifold:
https://tinyurl.com/r3n66gf with 1.22 A/R T4 Divided 3.5" (4.21 Marmon) V Band 3.5 " 801$ ~500whp max .Dont be afraid of the big 1.22 a/r. Its a divided setup. Im Using a 12cm^2(~0.90 a/r) on my b16 with evo x Turbo.1 psi at 2000 rpm.
https://tinyurl.com/yx83mytx 50 trim.Will hit 400-450whp with the p trim.And with good power per psi.A T3 .63 stage 3 would spool better off course but requires t3 manifold and i wouldnt pay 800-1200 for a manifold every year just to spool 500-700 rpm earlier.
(t3 mani wont work for your big target)
And here is the big boy https://dpraceparts.com/products/bor...iant=201296992
Or get the 2017 catalogue here againa lot very high hp options without breaking the bank http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/afterma...spx?doctype=16
have an infinity waiting to go in, which has both options
Does infinity has zero fuel compressions like racelogic?? I dont know a lot about infinity.
I know, 10-12g's
wtf is this " </strong> "
EDIT: I had a copy in my browser.If i violated a forum rule tell me.For now ill paste my comment.
not understanding this comment. do you mean get a k20a2 instead of putting forged pistons in? if so is a k20 z3 equivalent to a k20a2 for strength of bottom end?
Yes there are A LOT 100% stock longblock k20a2/k20z4 (type R) that hit 500 easy.Some more but hide it.Im not sure about the american z3/z1 but id suspect its the same internals.
can you pm me a link?
Ask TheShodan here (or google STC TURBO) but unfortunately silver surfer wont come in T4 divided (remember the mani youll keep for ever)
Ask him for other options.
If you ask me both these are reliable will make the job done cheap enought to change them later for the big boy.Also will work with the T4 divided manifold:
https://tinyurl.com/r3n66gf with 1.22 A/R T4 Divided 3.5" (4.21 Marmon) V Band 3.5 " 801$ ~500whp max .Dont be afraid of the big 1.22 a/r. Its a divided setup. Im Using a 12cm^2(~0.90 a/r) on my b16 with evo x Turbo.1 psi at 2000 rpm.
https://tinyurl.com/yx83mytx 50 trim.Will hit 400-450whp with the p trim.And with good power per psi.A T3 .63 stage 3 would spool better off course but requires t3 manifold and i wouldnt pay 800-1200 for a manifold every year just to spool 500-700 rpm earlier.
(t3 mani wont work for your big target)
And here is the big boy https://dpraceparts.com/products/bor...iant=201296992
Or get the 2017 catalogue here againa lot very high hp options without breaking the bank http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/afterma...spx?doctype=16
have an infinity waiting to go in, which has both options
Does infinity has zero fuel compressions like racelogic?? I dont know a lot about infinity.
I know, 10-12g's
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