How can you say ALL the oil gets filtered? I mean, a lot of the oil gets bypassed aroing the filter element anyways. ALso, your claim that unfiltered oil can damage rockers and turbos is BS. The oil gets filtered eventually. Like everyone else said, GREAT product, but there is no need to make you and your company look bad by making false claims. Oh how has my buddies LS/VTEC turbo run for 85k miles with a simlar product to yours thats supposedly "dangerous"? Get over yourself, its a little block of aluminum that directs oil, THATS IT! Regardless of weather or not it gets the oil before or after the filter is irrelevant as far as im concerned. Also, there is no need to attack Earl, he knows his **** and as far as this board is concerened, he has been here longer and posted way more relevent and meaningful information than you ever will.

 

Earl has made all his replies in a very calm and respectful manner, which I cannot say about your posts.

I agree with Earl, all oil gets filtered eventually. The oil system is a relatively closed system, so it's not like tons of contaminants are entering it all the time. So it's not like there's a huge difference how clean the oil is before or after the filter. If there is you have bigger problems than whether filtered or unfiltered oil is hitting your cams...

 

Her, never mind! I give up. Use other products and see what contaminated oil does to turbos. I guess what they say is right..... ignorance is bliss!!!!

 

I WAS going to purchase your product, but based SOLELY on the way you have addressed everyone on this message board, im going elsewhere. You have an OPINION, which you are entitled to. If you would like us to take your opinion as FACT, you have to present some sort of data. The burden of proof is on YOU since it is YOUR product. Just saying some other(competitors no less) prdouct will ruin a motor or turbo isnt good enough. Your unfiltered oil theory is BS(my OPINION), and if you have any quantitative evidence to support it , I would be more than interested in it. Please, prove us wrong and yourself right! You cant come here and think because you work for Golden Eagle, people will take what you have to say as gospel. Good luck with your sales!

 

exactly, you are coming off as an ***, i know things can get heated but no need to argue like that. earl is a respected member here and not cause of his time on here but the man does know his ****.

i have the greddy block adapter as well and it works great,im sure the GE model works great too. from what i can tell the oil wont be filtered when you 1st crank it but it will be eventually upon circulating thru the system,i dont think anyone has anything to worry about.

the screen on the pickup unit is very fine so its (not sure what micron it is) not like a chunk is going to get up in there. i know people who have used these type of adapters for a long time and no problems w/ their turbos at all.

just dont get all bent when someone disagrees w/ you, were all on the same team.

 

The guy gets ******* bashed on here all the time and 99% of the time it`s because some ******* newbie doesn`t know what they are doing. I`d feel the same way if I was him. I`m sure it gets pretty old. Keep your head up, Vince. Do you see the other manufacturers participating in these forums? No.

 

He isnt getting bashed, HE IS DOING THE BASHING by making stuff up! And there isnt a n00b in sight in here

 

Look, I have to agree with Ryan. Half the time I come on here to defend my company to people that think they know more than me about my products. That's fine, but no one knows more than me about my own product. We have done a full market analysis on ALL the different types of filter blocks of this type on the market and have come to the conclusion that besides ourselves, there is only a couple product like this. Of these few products, there are only 2 that we found ( one sold here and one in Japan ) that actually let you get oil pressure from AFTER the filter. Although our product may look similar to others at a glance, you will soon see that after careful inspection that our oil pressure feeds are routed from the inner feed hole, which comes directly out after the filter. Some of you may say " Wow, it is just a piece of aluminum " and stuff like that, but I assure you this, if you have a turbo then you know they are not cheap. If you are like I am, you take pride in things you buy, especially ones you spend alot of money on.

I will post pics tomorrow on what I am talking about.

We just thought that maybe some of you may want to have the best. That is why we are coming out with our line. I am just like you guys, I want the best bang for my buck. I have race cars to worry about, street cars to maintain and so forth. Please don't take anything I say here offensive, please. I am on your guy's side. Just looking for some understanding, maybe I need to be more explanitory about things. Anyways, sorry for any haste or presummed hot headedness. I'm not a tense person....just passionate about my stuff Again, my apologies to Earl and the others. Thanks Ryan!!!!

Vince Tiaga
Golden Eagle Mfg.
Just another H/T Member!

 

GB pricing and when will it be?

 

how much is that?!?!?!?

 

If you want the dowel pins that FFGeoff makes, please contact him for those! He is here on the board somewhere! ALso, NO GB on the Golden Eagle Mfg. products. I will post up the H/T prices later!

 

Is this because the manufacturer, you, doesnt want to deal with actual group buy work?

Maybe someone that you/the board trusts can volunteer to do it?

 

We just want to be able to offer these products to you guys at a great price without a GB. There will be a promotional price structure that will be posted by next week.

 

Vince, you have my vote.
Anyway, a promotional price is pretty much the same thing as a group buy anyway. He gets his product out there to us and we love it and tell other people....but they have to pay more cause HT members are cooler than everyone else.

I'm gonna need two rails and this "piece of aluminum" and I'm glad GE took the time to develop them.

Michael's $0.02

 

Please let us know when the ones for the factory oil cooler are available. Paul

 

Cool, if the promotinal price is decent then I'll prolly get it too.


2 Final Questions:

1. Will this apply any extra large amount of street to the usually filter threading?
2. When you get it installed, and come and change your oil, is there anything that keeps this adapter from coming off with your filter (is it secured to the block in anyway)?

 

I'll take 2 of these baby! right now. How much are they Vince? I'll call you tomorrow.


[Modified by boostedb20vtec, 1:50 AM 1/23/2003]

 

 

The VTEC Conversion kit is secured to the block in the same fasion as the B16 oil conditioner. It screws into the block and is tightened. You can remove the filter without loosening the VTEC Conversion block. Also, I do not quite understand the first question. Please try to enlighten me?

 

You are extending the distance of the endge of the filter. If something was to somehow hit the filter slightly, would this break either threading of the block or your product?

 

O.K., now I understand. The answer is NO. Our product was designed to take alot of abuse. It will not break under normal circumstances, and it would take someone jumping up and down on the filter to even attempt to break it off!!!

 

If HT pricing becoems available and you get a version for blocks with factory oil coolers (IE ITR) then I'm on board.

 

I stopped at GEM this morning to take a peek at all their new stuff. Looks really good. I was impressed. Dogs didn`t even tear my leg off

 

Whats the factory oil cooler?Is it that black box on the back with the pcv valve on it?

 

I'm a newb to this board but not a newb when it comes to engines, and vince is definately correct. All oil passes through the filter before going anywhere else in the engine. Oil goes from the Oil pan through the pickup to the filter and then elsewhere. If oil was taken from the oil pan and not filtered, but allowed to flow through the engine then why even have a filter?
Very great product will get mine soon.