Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power.
04-19-2004, 08:18 PM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lot of people keep mentioning doing headwork to the ls. Well, you can do all the headwork youwant, but then you're stuck with a head that has no low end, a bad rocker arm setup for high rpm, and still doesn't flow as good as a stock vtec head...</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you.all a ls is good for is limping on until your built vtec motor is done..lol
thank you.all a ls is good for is limping on until your built vtec motor is done..lol
04-19-2004, 08:22 PM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (espanol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by espanol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thank you.all a ls is good for is limping on until your built vtec motor is done..lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL
Iggy, get whatever head is cheapest, they'll both make very similar power. Get the gsr cams if you can, but don't spend much more money on them over b16 cams. The worst vtec stuff is tons better than the best ls stuff!!
thank you.all a ls is good for is limping on until your built vtec motor is done..lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL
Iggy, get whatever head is cheapest, they'll both make very similar power. Get the gsr cams if you can, but don't spend much more money on them over b16 cams. The worst vtec stuff is tons better than the best ls stuff!!
04-19-2004, 08:23 PM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The worst vtec stuff is tons better than the best ls stuff!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha thats sig worthy for sure
The worst vtec stuff is tons better than the best ls stuff!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha thats sig worthy for sure
04-19-2004, 08:30 PM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (quikB18B)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quikB18B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Haha thats sig worthy for sure </TD></TR></TABLE>
no doubt.that's pretty good.it's almost as good as this one, <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18bEK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey tony1, jotech called, they want their 8 seconds back.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha thats sig worthy for sure
</TD></TR></TABLE>no doubt.that's pretty good.it's almost as good as this one, <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18bEK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey tony1, jotech called, they want their 8 seconds back.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (espanol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hey tony1, jotech called, they want their 8 seconds back. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What?¿? 9.4 is still good
hey tony1, jotech called, they want their 8 seconds back. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What?¿? 9.4 is still good
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh yeah, on this deal, with the vtec head you can still use your distributor, and the ls tranny won't be any worse with the ls/vtec than it is now with the ls. It's a no brainer...</TD></TR></TABLE>
well I guess you can rig it, but I didn't think that was your style.
and I have to dissagree on the tranny. you make 400 on the LSvtec and 400 on the LS, the curves are going to be totally different.. torque is going to be way up on the LS cause the boost its going to take to get there. w/ out shortening up the gears w/ the vtec set up your just gonna have a car w/ less torque but no gears to make up for it.
Iggy if you seriously can say, "yeh ill be happy w/ 350-400 and never want to upgrade" stick w/ what you got and just build the bottem end and turn up the boost. Keep it simple and cheap.. but we all know that is not possible, you always want more, which is why I switched over to GSR
either way you decide to do it, just do it right.
Modified by DIRep972 at 12:36 AM 4/20/2004
Oh yeah, on this deal, with the vtec head you can still use your distributor, and the ls tranny won't be any worse with the ls/vtec than it is now with the ls. It's a no brainer...</TD></TR></TABLE>
well I guess you can rig it, but I didn't think that was your style.
and I have to dissagree on the tranny. you make 400 on the LSvtec and 400 on the LS, the curves are going to be totally different.. torque is going to be way up on the LS cause the boost its going to take to get there. w/ out shortening up the gears w/ the vtec set up your just gonna have a car w/ less torque but no gears to make up for it. Iggy if you seriously can say, "yeh ill be happy w/ 350-400 and never want to upgrade" stick w/ what you got and just build the bottem end and turn up the boost. Keep it simple and cheap.. but we all know that is not possible, you always want more, which is why I switched over to GSR
either way you decide to do it, just do it right.
Modified by DIRep972 at 12:36 AM 4/20/2004
04-20-2004, 04:44 AM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (DIRep972)
Half of the people out there only run one or two bolts on the distributor. If we're talking about a money issue then **** it, run the ls dist. and cut the flange off it. On the trans, you gotta remember that you'll be reving higher with the ls/vtec and you'll still have a very wide powerband so the gear spread won't hurt you much. We're not talking about a little b16 here!! By the time you get a good sized turbo on an ls your powerband gets pretty small.
04-20-2004, 04:59 AM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (AVATAR)
im in the same dillemma but I have to say **** it and go with a b16 head plus the vtec valve cover looks better lmao good luck man
04-20-2004, 10:26 AM
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Re: Go LsVtec or build the Ls? Decision Decisions, Need more Power. (stick)
Thanks stick, I fI go that route, ill give you a call. How much you want for em btw? Send me a Pm.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say **** the LS head and just slap a vtec head on there. Last time I was at the dyno...
My stock d16z6 @ 10 psi... 216whp
My buddies stock b18a @ 11 psi... 198whp
His number would fall like a rock at higher rpms.
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that was seriously gay, got my *** handed to me by a Z6 but good news a couple days before the dyno i got word of a B17 longblock.....made the deal on it a couple days after the dyno.....all i need is a couple valves and im going LSVTEC also....
so my vote is for LSVTEC....
My stock d16z6 @ 10 psi... 216whp
My buddies stock b18a @ 11 psi... 198whp
His number would fall like a rock at higher rpms.
</TD></TR></TABLE> that was seriously gay, got my *** handed to me by a Z6
but good news a couple days before the dyno i got word of a B17 longblock.....made the deal on it a couple days after the dyno.....all i need is a couple valves and im going LSVTEC also....so my vote is for LSVTEC....
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