are gapless rings worth it???

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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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check out this website
http://www.totalseal.com/gaplesss.html
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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piece of **** rings... stick with either factory or the specific manucafactur rings. The total seal are ***....
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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nope, use the rings that come with your pistons.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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Default Re: are gapless rings worth it??? (CovertFI)

you need a couple percent of blowby the rings in order to pressurize them and keep oil in the control rings. whatever JE supplies with their pistons seem good enough, stock honda aint all that bad either.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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total seal gappless rings
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 09:59 AM
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not good for street, they increase wear from what i have read. For track only applications I hear they are ok, but then I also hear that they flutter at high RPM's.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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onion rings
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Default Re: are gapless rings worth it??? (falconGSR)

if you like to go through a quart of oil in about 5 minutes go ahead and install them
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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Lets see a show of hands.....how many of you dissing Total Seal rings and the bores honed to their specs?????

Nobody??????

Samething happens on a V8 when you don't follow the directions that come with the rings.
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 04:35 AM
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CovertFI

can you email me at evo@esc.net.au

thanks bro
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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we did follow directions,and they did not work. called total seal,done as we were told, this made it worse. got arias pistons for the arias rings and have not used a drop of oil since. if you feel you must use them,go right ahead,you have been warned.and by the way,they will not refund your money because they will always say it is your fault which is bullshit.


[Modified by speedworks, 11:58 PM 6/5/2002]
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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how do you use more oil with gapless rings?
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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because the peices of **** will not seat.the middle(gapless)ring is so thin it puts very little tension against the cylinder walls and hydroplanes over the oil instead of scraping it off. i had oil dripping out of the exhaust pipe.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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I will be obviously using the Arias rings that came with my Arias pistons. Stainless 1st ring and cast second ring with a hella large oil ring (makes the stock honda oil ring look way small).

So anyway the gap Arias recommends is way more than the stock numbers. I'm just wondering if I should be somewhere in between or just follow Arias numbers.

Its a mild street turbo application daily driver.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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i gapped mine per arias chart and have not used any oil, but my car is drag only
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