FMU Safety?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:13 PM
  #1  
BoostedJeff's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 38,620
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, MD
Default FMU Safety?

I was thinking about downgrading my setup a bit, and converting from EMS to an FMU. I have been having some serious problems with tuning, and I want to do something more simple. Just wondeirng, with lets say 550ccs, and and FMU, how many pounds can i run and still have the FMU be efficient?

Any help will be appreciated


Modified by JDMHatch4Me at 2:42 PM 10/26/2004
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:47 PM
  #2  
g2_boosted's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Peachland, B.C., Canada
Default Re: FMU Safety? (JDMHatch4Me)

With an FMU there is no safety.... with 550's you need to control them or else ur car will not idle, it will run wayy too rich. FMU's just push more fuel pressure in and max out ur exisiting injectors. Just try to figure out the AEM ems, or sell it and go Uberdata
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:00 PM
  #3  
BEEYOND's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
Default Re: FMU Safety? (g2_boosted)

440cc and FMU 12:1 or 10:1 works great if pusing 10-15psi. use a chiped p28 ecu with a good turbo chip of course(not all motor..durh) and a VAFC2...oh and strap it on a dyno with wideband O2.....tune the heck out of it...

it'll work... and idle good.. just need to get the right people to help you tune it..awesome setup..

AEM would be best bet, but whatever works right!!!!
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:54 AM
  #4  
Nick7's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 178
Likes: 0
Default Re: FMU Safety? (nicholashang87)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nicholashang87 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">440cc and FMU 12:1 or 10:1 works great if pusing 10-15psi. use a chiped p28 ecu with a good turbo chip of course(not all motor..durh) and a VAFC2...oh and strap it on a dyno with wideband O2.....tune the heck out of it...

it'll work... and idle good.. just need to get the right people to help you tune it..awesome setup..

AEM would be best bet, but whatever works right!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wtf?!
With chipped ECU, you DON'T NEED FMU, actually it'll just screw things up!
440cc injectors are good for 250whp
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 10:26 AM
  #5  
boosted-delslow's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: New Castle, DE, usa
Default Re: FMU Safety? (Nick7)

I think 440s are good for a little more than 250 hp.
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 10:31 AM
  #6  
BoostedJeff's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 38,620
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, MD
Default Re: FMU Safety? (boosted-delslow)

i know someone making 523whp on 550's. I think 440's are definetly good for more than 250whp.
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 10:36 AM
  #7  
tgreaves's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, maryland, usa
Default Re: FMU Safety? (JDMHatch4Me)

What problems are you having with you AEM EMS?
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:01 AM
  #8  
Turbo E's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,323
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Default

550 and an FMU will hardly even start. may as well take a gas can and pour fuel right down the spark plug holes
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:15 AM
  #9  
slowpokesi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,443
Likes: 2
Default Re: FMU Safety? (nicholashang87)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nicholashang87 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">440cc and FMU 12:1 or 10:1 works great if pusing 10-15psi. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what the **** ever! fmu's are good up until about 7psi then anything over that and your pushing your luck.
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:20 AM
  #10  
Tad's Avatar
Tad
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,051
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

i know of ppl who'v run 10psi boost on sohc and over 200whp with just fmu and injectors..

of course same person has been through a few engines too..

so if you're down to use engines like batterys, then sure go for it
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:15 PM
  #11  
BoostedJeff's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 38,620
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, MD
Default Re: (Tad)

I dont give a **** what anyone says. I know someone who made 522 whp on 550's and a cartech FMU. Don't knock it if your haven't tried it. I have AEM right now, and it isnt everything that it is made out to be.

Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:19 PM
  #12  
92SleepyHB's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 598
Likes: 0
From: Tx, U.S
Default Re: FMU Safety? (g2_boosted)

Hondata will make your life complete....
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:25 PM
  #13  
Highrevs99's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: Moultrie, Ga., 31768
Default Re: (JDMHatch4Me)

I feel ya on that , tuning a turbo motor can be a pain but an FMU can do nothing for timing and that is something that needs to be tuned also . You can run a FMU for over 500 whp this is true but I think you will be better off trying to figure the EMS out . Use if a VAFC is not very good with a turbo since its just a map modifier and will change timing maps also , if you cant get it figured then like was said before try crome or uberdata , these are well free but donations to the learning cause are appreciated .
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:35 PM
  #14  
The Destroyer's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,131
Likes: 1
From: Tampa
Default Re: (Highrevs99)

How safe would an FMU be for like 7psi for a smaller turbo?
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:36 PM
  #15  
b16sedan's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Default Re: (JDMHatch4Me)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMHatch4Me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont give a **** what anyone says. I know someone who made 522 whp on 550's and a cartech FMU. Don't knock it if your haven't tried it. I have AEM right now, and it isnt everything that it is made out to be.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you seriously can't get a car running with the AEM you need to go pay somebody to set your car up right, going to an FMU isn't going to solve ****.
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:45 PM
  #16  
BoostR41's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 0
From: southwest, PA, USA
Default Re: FMU Safety? (slowpokesi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what the **** ever! fmu's are good up until about 7psi then anything over that and your pushing your luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>


&lt;----- 2 years .9 bar daily and 1.1bar at the track with a FMU, afc, 450's, missing link, 255lph fuel pump, inline pro head gaske and block gaurd. stock 92k mile ITR internals and daily driven for 8 months out of the year. no timing controls nothing.....people can hate but it works period. infact stan from inline pro did a few 10 second passes on this fuel setup. talk to jinxproof or turbologist about how the system works they helped me a lot
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:00 PM
  #17  
tgreaves's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, maryland, usa
Default Re: (JDMHatch4Me)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMHatch4Me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont give a **** what anyone says. I know someone who made 522 whp on 550's and a cartech FMU. Don't knock it if your haven't tried it. I have AEM right now, and it isnt everything that it is made out to be.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have tried using an fmu before and now I have the AEM EMS.. And I think that it is everything it is made out to be.. Hondata is the one that isnt all its cracked up to be..
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:20 PM
  #18  
slowpokesi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,443
Likes: 2
Default Re: FMU Safety? (BoostR41)

im not saying its not possible, im saying that your pushing your luck with it.
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:31 PM
  #19  
SOHC_MShue's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,440
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, Va, usa
Default Re: FMU Safety? (92SleepyHB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92SleepyHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondata will make your life complete....</TD></TR></TABLE>
what are you talking about? He already has aem which is way better than hondata...
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:36 PM
  #20  
The Destroyer's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,131
Likes: 1
From: Tampa
Default Re: FMU Safety? (SOHC_MShue)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what are you talking about? He already has aem which is way better than hondata...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Amen.

I have seen how AEM EMS works and it just just so ******* awesome. Theres so much tuning capability.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
97grnrs
Forced Induction
4
Dec 4, 2006 03:26 PM
kovert
Forced Induction
14
Aug 17, 2004 09:58 AM
turbo89civicb18hatch
Forced Induction
5
Apr 5, 2004 10:41 AM
turboITR#704
Forced Induction
8
Mar 18, 2004 08:57 PM
RTW DC2R
Acura Integra Type-R
6
Jun 5, 2002 07:41 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:50 AM.