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Old 04-22-2005, 11:13 AM
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Alright...heres the problem...i just finished my swap/install and am having an idle problem...the engine is UNTUNED, i switched between both AFC hack/stock p28 and a chipped p28 with basemap and still engine reacts the same way.

I will fire up the engine and it will being to lope once it gets up to temp...650-720rpm and eventually cut out..

When i was driving the car, i brought it up to 4500rpm...normally i hit boost around 3500 but this time..nothing...my boost guage still read in vacuum.

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Check for vacum leaks. Also check the couplers on the charge pipes.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blazin Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Check for vacum leaks. Also check the couplers on the charge pipes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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check map sensor
Old 04-22-2005, 05:30 PM
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what is you car vacuming at idle ?
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Default Re: Finished Install...IDLE LOPING..NO BOOST! (JD95hatch)

check v @ map sensor
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Default Re: Finished Install...IDLE LOPING..NO BOOST! (JD95hatch)

What kind of software was used to create the startup map?

I've run into similar symptoms before. Low idle vacuum (~19" Hg), rough warm idle, and low warm idle. The problem was that the fuel basemap was too lean...way too lean...around 24:1 AFR.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IN VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of software was used to create the startup map?

I've run into similar symptoms before. Low idle vacuum (~19" Hg), rough warm idle, and low warm idle. The problem was that the fuel basemap was too lean...way too lean...around 24:1 AFR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well..i rule that out becuase the problem was present with BOTH fuel managements

but didnt check the vacuum number...will do tommorw..
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also..i swapped map sensor from old engine over...so im hopin its just a vacuum leak...
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What size injectors are you using? And, does the "chipped" ECU's ROM have the proper injector correction factor?
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Default Re: Finished Install...IDLE LOPING..NO BOOST! (IN VTEC)

like i stated...it shouldnt matter becuase when i ran the chipped ECU...chipped with a basemap from uberdata it ran the same when i swapped ECUs and ran the AFC Hack

but im sure my ECU guy is good for his work....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blazin Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Check for vacum leaks. Also check the couplers on the charge pipes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD95hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like i stated...it shouldnt matter becuase when i ran the chipped ECU...chipped with a basemap from uberdata it ran the same when i swapped ECUs and ran the AFC Hack</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe they're both improperly calibrated.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD95hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but im sure my ECU guy is good for his work.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I assumed the same thing too....until I double-checked his work. We're talking about a reputable guy. It was probably just an oversight, but you can't always take everything for granted, especially when it comes to Uberdata startup map hand-outs.
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Even though it revs fine u still think it could be running lean??
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Default Re: Finished Install...IDLE LOPING..NO BOOST! (JD95hatch)

Yes. In my scenario, the car drove an hour down to me before I found out how lean it was.

Aside from the idle vacuum being a bit low, it drove fine for the most part, but it would buck quite a bit on throttle changes and throttle on conditions.
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Default Re: Finished Install...IDLE LOPING..NO BOOST! (IN VTEC)

finally got some vacuum numbers...idle ~ 21psi 4k RPM ~14psi.

could i have my BOV adjusted so that all the boost is escaping?...i have a greddy type S
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