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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 10:22 AM
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I've done some searching and went to K&N's website.. Is there a specific small compact filter you guys are using or can recommend?

4'' inch inlet and needs to be low profile

*UPDATE* If you are in need of a slim 4 inch filter for your turbo use this part number:

K&N Filter Part number - RU 2510

will work with power steering as well.

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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy
I've done some searching and went to K&N's website.. Is there a specific small compact filter you guys are using or can recommend?

4'' inch inlet and needs to be low profile
Could you make something like this work for you ?

It's cheap & will flow like crazy.

9" X 2" $60 shipped:
Spectre 47728, Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre

Here's the full list of sizes:
Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre



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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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Could you make something like this work for you ?

It's cheap & will flow like crazy.

9" X 2" $60 shipped:
Spectre 47728, Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre

Here's the full list of sizes:
Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre



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No that won't work.
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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 03:58 PM
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i have a a short height spectre filter from autozone. it has removable sections that varies from 4, 3.5, 3"s. ive used it on two different compressor housing in the last three years
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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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My vote is the short-height Spectre filter from AutoZone as well. I have a couple that I've used on multiple ram-horn and top mount set-ups.
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Old Sep 23, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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My bud lost a Garrett Turbo when that silver button let go and the turbo attempted to ingest it.
I have no idea of the conditions the filter was subjected to, or it's condition at the time of failure, but I've been running K&N since and avoided anything with small metal pieces inside.



Didn't know they made the kind with all rubber end caps like the K&N, I wouldn't mind that style.
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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What sort of clearance do you have for a filter?
Are you going to run it off of the compressor housing directly or are you building an intake pipe to get the filter away from hot air off of the radiator?
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 07:34 PM
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What sort of clearance do you have for a filter?
Are you going to run it off of the compressor housing directly or are you building an intake pipe to get the filter away from hot air off of the radiator?
I wouldn't put it directly on the turbo itself. It actually slows responsiveness down. Put a nice 90* silicone and point it downward.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Filter on turbo?

I just do some mesh and a pipe clamp I made 600hp makes no problems.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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Some driving areas require more filtration than a simple mesh screen.

I live in the country and sometimes go down dirt roads, I HAVE to have a good filter.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by civiccivic123
I just do some mesh and a pipe clamp I made 600hp makes no problems.
absolutely not.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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If you can't fit this you can't run anything but a mesh
K&N RU-2510 Universal Rubber Filter, Universal Air Filters

or
K&N RU-2520 Universal Rubber Filter, Universal Air Filters

If you using top mount its no chance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-N-Universal-4-Air-Intake-Cone-Filter-102mm-RU-2510-Car-Truck-SUV-NEW-/281437288366?hash=item4186f837ae&vxp=mtr
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by civiccivic123
I just do some mesh and a pipe clamp I made 600hp makes no problems.
It's not about the damn power! How many times can people not understand this? It's about longevity and safety of the turbocharger and to make sure that it can respond to gear changes appropriately.

If you feel that will keep your turbo safe, I'll simply say this......It's never a problem..Until it's a problem.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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he has room for an intake or straight filter after looking at his build thread
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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I always cringe when I see people using screens and hose clamps
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Filter on turbo?

I remember a thread where mesh was proven to cost power anyway...Surface area added up be a blockage

I guess mesh can vary, but still...
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 04:07 PM
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Most mesh occupies more airspace for a given size, meaning there's less area for air to pass through which means a restriction. There was a sight that showed you various mesh sizes and the percentage of airspace each had.

A quality filter will always outflow any mesh. The biggest problem I see with filters that have to be oiled is most people always over-oil them. This causes huge restrictions as the pores in the filtration media become blocked by the oil. I've even seen some over oiled so bad that the person found filter oil puddled in their intercooler.

The new synthetic dry flow filters are the way to go.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
Most mesh occupies more airspace for a given size, meaning there's less area for air to pass through which means a restriction. There was a sight that showed you various mesh sizes and the percentage of airspace each had.

A quality filter will always outflow any mesh. The biggest problem I see with filters that have to be oiled is most people always over-oil them. This causes huge restrictions as the pores in the filtration media become blocked by the oil. I've even seen some over oiled so bad that the person found filter oil puddled in their intercooler.

The new synthetic dry flow filters are the way to go.
I couldn't agree LESS... The synthetic dry flows also tend to break apart and enter into the compressor wheel itself when using efficient turbochargers. Especially the smaller ones. Ask Californiadad when he used one of those AEM Dry Flows on his Surfer.

A good standard K&N Oiled filter is fine. The over-oiling problem only occurs when people get over-zealous during cleaning.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Filter on turbo?

I've heard about the AEM filters before. There's another company that makes dry filters and they haven't suffered a failure on a turbocharger yet but I can't remember the name of they company.
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 03:30 AM
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I run the same filter on my car, works great..
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 11:50 AM
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That seems like it'd do a great job of sucking water straight up off the pavement.
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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That seems like it'd do a great job of sucking water straight up off the pavement.
They make Filter bags to prevent that. Its not like a CAI where it goes directly into the throttle body and the engine is all of a sudden trying to compress water..

In addition, most honda turbocharged don't sit so low that it affects it anyway.

Any Honda turbo that has a compressor facing the driver (US) fender typically is smart enough to make a 90* or 45* to face downward since there is no other room. Its all in the configuration.


I have one of these myself.



It fits over the filter like this:




Not even a full $21
Amazon.com: K&N RX-4990DK Black Air Filter Wrap: Automotive Amazon.com: K&N RX-4990DK Black Air Filter Wrap: Automotive
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
I've heard about the AEM filters before. There's another company that makes dry filters and they haven't suffered a failure on a turbocharger yet but I can't remember the name of they company.
AFE?
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Filter on turbo?

That might be it. I know that there are synthetic media dry flow filters and stainless media dry flow filters. Again I can't remember the companies off the top of my head (Traumatic Brain Injury has caused severe long term and short term memory loss FML lol)

Also LightningTeg doesn't drive his car in inclement weather so no concerns over ingesting water. Plus his car sits at a fairly reasonable ride height so short of driving into a lake he wouldn't really have an issue.
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