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Jimmy 09-23-2015 10:22 AM

Filter on turbo?
 
I've done some searching and went to K&N's website.. Is there a specific small compact filter you guys are using or can recommend?

4'' inch inlet and needs to be low profile

*UPDATE* If you are in need of a slim 4 inch filter for your turbo use this part number:

K&N Filter Part number - RU 2510

will work with power steering as well.

Rob43 09-23-2015 11:32 AM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by Jimmy (Post 50545072)
I've done some searching and went to K&N's website.. Is there a specific small compact filter you guys are using or can recommend?

4'' inch inlet and needs to be low profile

Could you make something like this work for you ?

It's cheap & will flow like crazy.

9" X 2" $60 shipped:
Spectre 47728, Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre

Here's the full list of sizes:
Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre



Rob43

Jimmy 09-23-2015 11:54 AM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by Rob43 (Post 50545209)
Could you make something like this work for you ?

It's cheap & will flow like crazy.

9" X 2" $60 shipped:
Spectre 47728, Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre

Here's the full list of sizes:
Spectre Xtra Flow Air Cleaner Assemblies | Spectre



Rob43

No that won't work.

ls joker 09-23-2015 03:58 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
i have a a short height spectre filter from autozone. it has removable sections that varies from 4, 3.5, 3"s. ive used it on two different compressor housing in the last three years

DC4KiD 09-23-2015 09:02 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
My vote is the short-height Spectre filter from AutoZone as well. I have a couple that I've used on multiple ram-horn and top mount set-ups.

B and B 09-23-2015 09:20 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
My bud lost a Garrett Turbo when that silver button let go and the turbo attempted to ingest it.
I have no idea of the conditions the filter was subjected to, or it's condition at the time of failure, but I've been running K&N since and avoided anything with small metal pieces inside.

http://www.spectreperformance.com/im...-8168_Base.jpg

Didn't know they made the kind with all rubber end caps like the K&N, I wouldn't mind that style.

wantboost 09-24-2015 03:01 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
What sort of clearance do you have for a filter?
Are you going to run it off of the compressor housing directly or are you building an intake pipe to get the filter away from hot air off of the radiator?

TheShodan 09-24-2015 07:34 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 50547091)
What sort of clearance do you have for a filter?
Are you going to run it off of the compressor housing directly or are you building an intake pipe to get the filter away from hot air off of the radiator?

I wouldn't put it directly on the turbo itself. It actually slows responsiveness down. Put a nice 90* silicone and point it downward.

civiccivic123 09-25-2015 12:45 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
I just do some mesh and a pipe clamp I made 600hp makes no problems.

VegaS10 09-25-2015 01:29 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
Some driving areas require more filtration than a simple mesh screen.

I live in the country and sometimes go down dirt roads, I HAVE to have a good filter.

ls joker 09-25-2015 01:37 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by civiccivic123 (Post 50548695)
I just do some mesh and a pipe clamp I made 600hp makes no problems.

absolutely not.

rudebwoy 09-25-2015 02:10 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
If you can't fit this you can't run anything but a mesh
K&N RU-2510 Universal Rubber Filter, Universal Air Filters

or
K&N RU-2520 Universal Rubber Filter, Universal Air Filters

If you using top mount its no chance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-N-Universal-4-Air-Intake-Cone-Filter-102mm-RU-2510-Car-Truck-SUV-NEW-/281437288366?hash=item4186f837ae&vxp=mtr

TheShodan 09-25-2015 02:23 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by civiccivic123 (Post 50548695)
I just do some mesh and a pipe clamp I made 600hp makes no problems.

It's not about the damn power! How many times can people not understand this? It's about longevity and safety of the turbocharger and to make sure that it can respond to gear changes appropriately.

If you feel that will keep your turbo safe, I'll simply say this......It's never a problem..Until it's a problem.

ls joker 09-25-2015 02:49 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
he has room for an intake or straight filter after looking at his build thread

NotARaCist 09-25-2015 03:04 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
I always cringe when I see people using screens and hose clamps :(

B and B 09-25-2015 05:21 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
I remember a thread where mesh was proven to cost power anyway...Surface area added up be a blockage :hammer:

I guess mesh can vary, but still...

wantboost 09-26-2015 04:07 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
Most mesh occupies more airspace for a given size, meaning there's less area for air to pass through which means a restriction. There was a sight that showed you various mesh sizes and the percentage of airspace each had.

A quality filter will always outflow any mesh. The biggest problem I see with filters that have to be oiled is most people always over-oil them. This causes huge restrictions as the pores in the filtration media become blocked by the oil. I've even seen some over oiled so bad that the person found filter oil puddled in their intercooler.

The new synthetic dry flow filters are the way to go.

TheShodan 09-26-2015 07:18 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 50549986)
Most mesh occupies more airspace for a given size, meaning there's less area for air to pass through which means a restriction. There was a sight that showed you various mesh sizes and the percentage of airspace each had.

A quality filter will always outflow any mesh. The biggest problem I see with filters that have to be oiled is most people always over-oil them. This causes huge restrictions as the pores in the filtration media become blocked by the oil. I've even seen some over oiled so bad that the person found filter oil puddled in their intercooler.

The new synthetic dry flow filters are the way to go.

I couldn't agree LESS... The synthetic dry flows also tend to break apart and enter into the compressor wheel itself when using efficient turbochargers. Especially the smaller ones. Ask Californiadad when he used one of those AEM Dry Flows on his Surfer.

A good standard K&N Oiled filter is fine. The over-oiling problem only occurs when people get over-zealous during cleaning.

wantboost 09-26-2015 11:52 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
I've heard about the AEM filters before. There's another company that makes dry filters and they haven't suffered a failure on a turbocharger yet but I can't remember the name of they company.

BIG LUIS 09-27-2015 03:30 AM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy (Post 50548841)

I run the same filter on my car, works great..

LightningTeg 09-27-2015 11:50 AM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
Rc-5059


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...e303b509ee.jpg

NotARaCist 09-27-2015 12:12 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
That seems like it'd do a great job of sucking water straight up off the pavement.

TheShodan 09-27-2015 12:31 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by NotARaCist (Post 50550774)
That seems like it'd do a great job of sucking water straight up off the pavement.

They make Filter bags to prevent that. Its not like a CAI where it goes directly into the throttle body and the engine is all of a sudden trying to compress water..

In addition, most honda turbocharged don't sit so low that it affects it anyway.

Any Honda turbo that has a compressor facing the driver (US) fender typically is smart enough to make a 90* or 45* to face downward since there is no other room. Its all in the configuration.


I have one of these myself.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...AL._SY355_.jpg

It fits over the filter like this:

http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce0...c8aa82e.v1.jpg


Not even a full $21

Bently_Coop 09-27-2015 03:05 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 50550345)
I've heard about the AEM filters before. There's another company that makes dry filters and they haven't suffered a failure on a turbocharger yet but I can't remember the name of they company.

AFE?

wantboost 09-27-2015 04:17 PM

Re: Filter on turbo?
 
That might be it. I know that there are synthetic media dry flow filters and stainless media dry flow filters. Again I can't remember the companies off the top of my head (Traumatic Brain Injury has caused severe long term and short term memory loss FML lol)

Also LightningTeg doesn't drive his car in inclement weather so no concerns over ingesting water. Plus his car sits at a fairly reasonable ride height so short of driving into a lake he wouldn't really have an issue.


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