FI sparkplug help....ever see this?

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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Default FI sparkplug help....ever see this?



Found these due to rough idle/stalling today. Dont know how it happened. These are stock heat range and I'm going to go colder, but dont know that it would cause this.

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FMAX (no mf2 or intake injectors)
4:1 FMU
Walbro 255 hp pump
500 cc RC's
VAFC
Accel 300+ Ignition & magnecore 8mm
Dyno a/f 12.5 to 13

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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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detonation...dude
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Could be. Never heard a thing on the dyno. Had good fuel the whole time. Stock compression is 8.8 to 1. Timing is 15 degree advance at 550 rpm.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Default Re: FI sparkplug help....ever see this? (niedejb)

yes,i have seen that.when i saw it it was from detonation.what heat range are you using on what horsepower level?that could be your problem.i would guess not enough fuel.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Heres the 10 psi run. Fuel never got out of control under boost.

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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 04:18 AM
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If this is detonation causing this, how do I cure it? Dont hear anything so how do I know its gone? The spark plugs stop breaking their insulators?
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 04:53 AM
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is it just on those two? that is really strange that you only have detonation on 2 cylanders.....check your injectors for those two....
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 05:08 AM
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Yep just the two. I think I may have damaged the insulator somehow when gapping them. I'm clueless.
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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Sure, you can have detonation on only two cylinders and even one cylinder. Also, you CAN'T always hear detonation. That's the beauty of a J&S safeguard, which tells you how many cylinder has detonation and how many degrees of timing is removed ONLY for those cylinders. In fact, I've never heard any detonation on my car. However, I know it's there and J&S took care of it, and let me know via the knock monitor.
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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I guess I'm the only one that seesthe f/a ratio go lean after 5500 rpm... Dude, anything over 6 psi needs 1 or 2 heat range colder plugs. It's not a "I'm running fine on the a/f ratio, I don't need it thing." It's a proven fact. All factory cars running turbo or superchargers run colder plugs. Get 1 heat range colder and see how it does... Also, look at why it leans out at 5500-up. If I'm reading the graph correctly it goes as lean as 13.0 or 13.5. You should be sitting at 12.5. I bet the detonation happened that high in the rpm, that's why you couldn't hear it... Too much engine noise...

Hope this helps...

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