Explain Boost By Gear
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (Bonestock98GS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bonestock98GS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like the topic says I am looking to getting a hondata s300 and I heard someone mention boost by gear explain that to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's nothing too complicated. You tune the electronic boost controller and then turn the "boost by gear" option on and tell it how much psi you want in each gear. It does the rest for you and then you have varying amounts of boost in different gears.
To tune the EBC is easy: set the duty cycle to fixed and enter a value of like 7-10% or so then make a run. You should be right around the pressure from the wastegate spring only. [Record the amount of boost you see while datalogging and the associated duty cycle (DC)]. Then raise the DC to like 10-12%, make a run, record the boost. Raise it to 12-14%, make a run, record the boost. Keep going until you have recorded the most boost you want to see.
Enter that table you created from recording the numbers and put it into the table provided in the S300 software. Done.
**NOTE**
This is also explained well in the S300's help file. You can also find this info. out on their website/forum.
It's nothing too complicated. You tune the electronic boost controller and then turn the "boost by gear" option on and tell it how much psi you want in each gear. It does the rest for you and then you have varying amounts of boost in different gears.
To tune the EBC is easy: set the duty cycle to fixed and enter a value of like 7-10% or so then make a run. You should be right around the pressure from the wastegate spring only. [Record the amount of boost you see while datalogging and the associated duty cycle (DC)]. Then raise the DC to like 10-12%, make a run, record the boost. Raise it to 12-14%, make a run, record the boost. Keep going until you have recorded the most boost you want to see.
Enter that table you created from recording the numbers and put it into the table provided in the S300 software. Done.
**NOTE**
This is also explained well in the S300's help file. You can also find this info. out on their website/forum.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (sp00led)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sp00led »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fyi - Looks like hondata just added a few new features like boost by rpm and speed as well. This is in the new smanager that was just released.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I started to think "hell yea that's nice" but then realized....well if you start spinning due to power, you'll just be adding even more power to it. Seems kind of counter productive if the circumstance is right haha
I started to think "hell yea that's nice" but then realized....well if you start spinning due to power, you'll just be adding even more power to it. Seems kind of counter productive if the circumstance is right haha
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (Dunc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I started to think "hell yea that's nice" but then realized....well if you start spinning due to power, you'll just be adding even more power to it. Seems kind of counter productive if the circumstance is right haha
</TD></TR></TABLE>yes, this is definantly what you want to avoid. I was thinking that if you factor in speed you could in theory run higher boost if you aren't in the correct gear and have it taper off before wheel spin occurs. it would definantly take some fine tuning.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (Dunc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I started to think "hell yea that's nice" but then realized....well if you start spinning due to power, you'll just be adding even more power to it. Seems kind of counter productive if the circumstance is right haha </TD></TR></TABLE>
you still have to drive haha... but i think you would then just need to tune out the spin in the first place w/ that situation.
I started to think "hell yea that's nice" but then realized....well if you start spinning due to power, you'll just be adding even more power to it. Seems kind of counter productive if the circumstance is right haha
</TD></TR></TABLE>you still have to drive haha... but i think you would then just need to tune out the spin in the first place w/ that situation.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (dmotoguy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dmotoguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but i think you would then just need to tune out the spin in the first place w/ that situation. </TD></TR></TABLE>
True, but I definitely would not sacrifice total power just to prevent spinning the tires in a lower gear...plus not every street car is going to be rolling around with slicks haha
True, but I definitely would not sacrifice total power just to prevent spinning the tires in a lower gear...plus not every street car is going to be rolling around with slicks haha
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (Dunc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's nothing too complicated. You tune the electronic boost controller and then turn the "boost by gear" option on and tell it how much psi you want in each gear. It does the rest for you and then you have varying amounts of boost in different gears.
To tune the EBC is easy: set the duty cycle to fixed and enter a value of like 7-10% or so then make a run. You should be right around the pressure from the wastegate spring only. [Record the amount of boost you see while datalogging and the associated duty cycle (DC)]. Then raise the DC to like 10-12%, make a run, record the boost. Raise it to 12-14%, make a run, record the boost. Keep going until you have recorded the most boost you want to see.
Enter that table you created from recording the numbers and put it into the table provided in the S300 software. Done.
**NOTE**
This is also explained well in the S300's help file. You can also find this info. out on their website/forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what your describing sounds more like boost by mph... wouldent you need some sort of sensor to tell the hondata what gear the car is currently in?
It's nothing too complicated. You tune the electronic boost controller and then turn the "boost by gear" option on and tell it how much psi you want in each gear. It does the rest for you and then you have varying amounts of boost in different gears.
To tune the EBC is easy: set the duty cycle to fixed and enter a value of like 7-10% or so then make a run. You should be right around the pressure from the wastegate spring only. [Record the amount of boost you see while datalogging and the associated duty cycle (DC)]. Then raise the DC to like 10-12%, make a run, record the boost. Raise it to 12-14%, make a run, record the boost. Keep going until you have recorded the most boost you want to see.
Enter that table you created from recording the numbers and put it into the table provided in the S300 software. Done.
**NOTE**
This is also explained well in the S300's help file. You can also find this info. out on their website/forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what your describing sounds more like boost by mph... wouldent you need some sort of sensor to tell the hondata what gear the car is currently in?
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (blinx9900)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what your describing sounds more like boost by mph... wouldent you need some sort of sensor to tell the hondata what gear the car is currently in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, hondata goes by some calculations to figure out what gear you are in.. havent you ever datalogged in hondata?
what your describing sounds more like boost by mph... wouldent you need some sort of sensor to tell the hondata what gear the car is currently in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, hondata goes by some calculations to figure out what gear you are in.. havent you ever datalogged in hondata?
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (mike93eh2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no, hondata goes by some calculations to figure out what gear you are in.. havent you ever datalogged in hondata?</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope, i use aem ems, but im willing to be its technically going by mph and other calculations than actual gear....
no, hondata goes by some calculations to figure out what gear you are in.. havent you ever datalogged in hondata?</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope, i use aem ems, but im willing to be its technically going by mph and other calculations than actual gear....
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (blinx9900)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nope, i use aem ems, but im willing to be its technically going by mph and other calculations than actual gear.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol no it goes by gear, hence the boost by gear.
like i said you input your gear ratios into smanager and it uses that and other things to calculate what gear youre in.
smanager is free to download if you want to look into it.
here is a screenshot of mine not hooked up to the car, notice the gear.
nope, i use aem ems, but im willing to be its technically going by mph and other calculations than actual gear.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol no it goes by gear, hence the boost by gear.
like i said you input your gear ratios into smanager and it uses that and other things to calculate what gear youre in.
smanager is free to download if you want to look into it.
here is a screenshot of mine not hooked up to the car, notice the gear.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (mike93eh2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol no it goes by gear, hence the boost by gear.
like i said you input your gear ratios into smanager and it uses that and other things to calculate what gear youre in.
smanager is free to download if you want to look into it.
here is a screenshot of mine not hooked up to the car, notice the gear.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats exactly what i figured it was going to be, aem has something similar, i still consider that mph based i dunno, i think im just being to general with it, i know what your saying though and i think you know what im saying
lol no it goes by gear, hence the boost by gear.
like i said you input your gear ratios into smanager and it uses that and other things to calculate what gear youre in.
smanager is free to download if you want to look into it.
here is a screenshot of mine not hooked up to the car, notice the gear.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats exactly what i figured it was going to be, aem has something similar, i still consider that mph based i dunno, i think im just being to general with it, i know what your saying though and i think you know what im saying
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (blinx9900)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what your describing sounds more like boost by mph... wouldent you need some sort of sensor to tell the hondata what gear the car is currently in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's boost by gear. All you're doing is 1.) figuring out how much boost you get at an X amount of duty cycle and then 2.) telling the S300 that you want to run Y amount of boost in Z gear. The S300 then decides which gear you are in and knows (via your input) how much boost to give the car. It does know which gear you are in, so it is boost by gear.
It's boost by gear. All you're doing is 1.) figuring out how much boost you get at an X amount of duty cycle and then 2.) telling the S300 that you want to run Y amount of boost in Z gear. The S300 then decides which gear you are in and knows (via your input) how much boost to give the car. It does know which gear you are in, so it is boost by gear.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (Dunc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's boost by gear. All you're doing is 1.) figuring out how much boost you get at an X amount of duty cycle and then 2.) telling the S300 that you want to run Y amount of boost in Z gear. The S300 then decides which gear you are in and knows (via your input) how much boost to give the car. It does know which gear you are in, so it is boost by gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
bah! petatoe pAtatoe!
It's boost by gear. All you're doing is 1.) figuring out how much boost you get at an X amount of duty cycle and then 2.) telling the S300 that you want to run Y amount of boost in Z gear. The S300 then decides which gear you are in and knows (via your input) how much boost to give the car. It does know which gear you are in, so it is boost by gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
bah! petatoe pAtatoe!
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (blinx9900)
all it needs to know for which gear you are in is what your gear ratios are, what mph you are at, and what rpm you are sitting at while at that current mph.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (mike93eh2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol no it goes by gear, hence the boost by gear.
like i said you input your gear ratios into smanager and it uses that and other things to calculate what gear youre in.
smanager is free to download if you want to look into it.
here is a screenshot of mine not hooked up to the car, notice the gear.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Can you put this screnn on a TFT screen or cann i only monitor it with a notebook?
You can spare alot of gauges with it.
lol no it goes by gear, hence the boost by gear.
like i said you input your gear ratios into smanager and it uses that and other things to calculate what gear youre in.
smanager is free to download if you want to look into it.
here is a screenshot of mine not hooked up to the car, notice the gear.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Can you put this screnn on a TFT screen or cann i only monitor it with a notebook?
You can spare alot of gauges with it.
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Re: Explain Boost By Gear (vti2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vti2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Can you put this screnn on a TFT screen or cann i only monitor it with a notebook?
You can spare alot of gauges with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
car computer hooked up to a small tft screen sure..
Can you put this screnn on a TFT screen or cann i only monitor it with a notebook?
You can spare alot of gauges with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
car computer hooked up to a small tft screen sure..
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