E85: Some real-world data

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gdh8su &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much power could 1000cc injectors make with E85? Without running the duty cycle past 90%.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahaha talk about a shot in the dark....... there are alot of things that could play a factor in the amount of power you can make with 1000cc injectors
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by servion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're at 85% duty cycle on gasoline, you'd definitely have to change something to run E85. If I remember correctly, they went from somewhere around 60% to somewhere around 80-85%. I'll get exact #'s later</TD></TR></TABLE>

Using these rough figures it looks like he is using 33% to 40% more fuel on E85 under load (80/60=1.33 & 85/60=1.41). So figure 1000cc injector on E85 is comparable to a 710cc to 750cc injector on gasonline.

1000/1.41=709cc
1000/1.33=752cc

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Modified by Justin Olson at 3:42 PM 7/27/2006
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Thanks for that info. Would that be maxxing everything in the fuel system out? Like stock lines to filter and a 255lphHP pump. It looks like I would have to run 1600's! Can Hondata run those?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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thats good ****
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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http://www.cleanairchoice.org/...m.asp

Are those e85 prices somewhat on target? I was under the impression it was a bit cheaper...

But either way, we can make more power on it for cheaper without spending $6-12/gal on 110-116octane.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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so as a general rule thus for, it appears the E85 is capable of making some decent power, but it seems you would need to run more fuel (more dc) to reach the same or similar power levels with standard gasoline?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so as a general rule thus for, it appears the E85 is capable of making some decent power, but it seems you would need to run more fuel (more dc) to reach the same or similar power levels with standard gasoline? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, they said that like 8 times...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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I'm paying $2.39 a gallon here.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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I just paid $2.54 for E85.
91 octane is $3.29
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Right on Jeromy!

Glad someone finally did a test with E85!

Here ya go buddy...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.cleanairchoice.org/...m.asp

Are those e85 prices somewhat on target? I was under the impression it was a bit cheaper...

But either way, we can make more power on it for cheaper without spending $6-12/gal on 110-116octane. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Those prices are correct. Last time they raised prices because there was supposedly a shortage . But as it progresses i'm sure the cost of e85 will go down. But still 2.54 for 104 octane sounds good to me.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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any updates on the vehicles running E85? Just wondering if anyone has encountered any long term side effects yet? Thanks
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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This particular car is still kicking strong. He loves it.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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All mine blew up.

j/k, done 8 cars with it so far, all still running great.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Well we can add another car to the list. I just filled my tank with straight E70 (winter blend) and am getting tuned ASAP. I will have to get a retune for the summer blend I assume? Any recomendations for a noob to the E - fuel world?

My setup is

1992 Prelude Si 4ws - H22a4 (1999 Prelude Engine)
Basically stock - only aftermarket I/H/E
ODB1 running a chipped p28

Thanks for the help.

Also if anyone happens to have a good basemap for this setup please let me know. Thanks again.

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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by servion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This particular car is still kicking strong. He loves it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What kind of mpg ratings are we looking at here: (Summer blend) boosted motor that's daily driven and in and out of boost occasionally on a conservative tune?

Ludefanatic posed a good question....will you have to retune between switching blends if you're not using NepTune's map-switching feature?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Default Re: E85: Some real-world data (Justin Olson)

E85 is in Portland. (use the E85 locator) one station on 82nd
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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I have a pump about 25 miles away, i might have to get a tank for some race days!!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Anyone tried E95 yet?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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i love E85 because of this :





it goes from car to plant.. cant get more environmental then that!
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 04:47 AM
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great work, I wish we had e85 near here
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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I have been running for 3 years now in my turbo honda with out a problem with all oem but a 255lph pump and some 720cc greddy injectors

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