nY's FiNeSt

wassup guys, i did a search on the drag kit the past few days and i've seen some good comments about it.

now my question is, for a first time turbo set up, would i be better off with a drag kit or build up my own custom set up. i've been talking to a few friends and pretty much 1/2 said drag kit, 1/2 said custom. i was wondering what the pro's and con's of having each would be. i wanted to go custom to get more power out of it (hoping for 300whp +) but i was told i could be close with the drag kit on my b18b.

also i have 135k on my b18b, any advice if i should boost this motor or just buy a new short block. please give me some advice on this topic.

thanks, john

silverEH2

drag kits suck, do a custom kit....you can have all the parts "YOU" want instead of settling for what the "KIT" comes with

Nextelbuddy

yea drag kit sucks. im only making 236 whp on a stock b18c1 and i paid way to much for my used drag kit about 1400 bux.

i forgot thats only at 5 psi

nY's FiNeSt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silverEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">drag kits suck, do a custom kit....you can have all the parts "YOU" want instead of settling for what the "KIT" comes with</TD></TR></TABLE>

true, but then again this is my first turbo set up, the drag is guaranteed to work, the custom is iffy to someone who's doing their first set up

Ricey McRicerton

Get a pre-fab kit for your first try. I tryed building a kit the first time around, and it was much too tough for me with limited turbo expereince.

-Trinitron-

I wanted a drag kit for a long time. I have now decided to go with a custom setup. The first reason being the drag manifold isn't the best, and needs to be replaced. Second the deltagate isnt the best either, and needs to be replaced. Many offer the Tial as an upgrade for that reason. Third, the FMU isn' t the best. The plumbing is pretty but if you want "pretty" get a bug.

nY's FiNeSt

any other comments?

what about my high milage motor

nY's FiNeSt

SIReg9

First priority would be that motor...if everything seems mechanicly sound then **** it. But i would risk boostin on a 185k or whatever motor.

Spark Racing will be your best bet on a Prefab Kit, The stuff the include is awesome, and pretty much what your gonna WANT in a custom kit.

The manifold design is bad ***, turbo is sufficient size, Tial 38mm wastegate, cant go wrong with that, Big intercooler (always cool) and all the fuel **** your gonna need, I believe they said they made 316hp on 8.7psi on a stock GSR with Hondata.
If you wanna make 300 hp on a stock motor Hondata will be necesary i think.
Kit retails for like 2700$ i believe

Search on here for Spark racing and take a look

akaEsCo01

all i have to say is rebuild the bottom end with forged pieces and then goto full-race.com

nY's FiNeSt

yeah it's 135k on the motor not 185k, but yeah the motor is fine, pulls like a champ!

i have a friend that works for an import shop and he said he can get me the drag kit for 2800 shipped, so i'm not sure, im leaning towards the drag kit

KillerBee18

kit, if you dont want to hassel with piping

bearboy80

is there any good website to teach you how to build a turbo your own?

thid92

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nY's FiNeSt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah it's 135k on the motor not 185k, but yeah the motor is fine, pulls like a champ!

i have a friend that works for an import shop and he said he can get me the drag kit for 2800 shipped, so i'm not sure, im leaning towards the drag kit</TD></TR></TABLE>
i hope you are talking about the drag 3 kit , when you just say the drag kit people will think that you are talking about the kit that doesnt include the IC. i just got the drag 3 kit for my first turbo, i cant tell you anything about it though. not in my car yet.

nY's FiNeSt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thid92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i hope you are talking about the drag 3 kit , when you just say the drag kit people will think that you are talking about the kit that doesnt include the IC. i just got the drag 3 kit for my first turbo, i cant tell you anything about it though. not in my car yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah sorry, the drag 3 kit

on me

CarbonCreations

try the forced induction forum

beseman

i think there is http://www.homemadeturbo.com

Full-Race Henry

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea drag kit sucks. im only making 236 whp on a stock b18c1 and i paid way to much for my used drag kit about 1400 bux.

i forgot thats only at 5 psi </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hate drag too, but on my stock B18C i made 260whp at 6psi with 310's, vafc, 12:1 fmu, and a 255 hp FP. with a drag kit.

Full-Race Henry

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIReg9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First priority would be that motor...if everything seems mechanicly sound then **** it. But i would risk boostin on a 185k or whatever motor.

Spark Racing will be your best bet on a Prefab Kit, The stuff the include is awesome, and pretty much what your gonna WANT in a custom kit.

The manifold design is bad ***, turbo is sufficient size, Tial 38mm wastegate, cant go wrong with that, Big intercooler (always cool) and all the fuel **** your gonna need, I believe they said they made 316hp on 8.7psi on a stock GSR with Hondata.
If you wanna make 300 hp on a stock motor Hondata will be necesary i think.
Kit retails for like 2700$ i believe

Search on here for Spark racing and take a look</TD></TR></TABLE>

one of my buddies has a Sparks/Meng Manifold. He took it off and i counted about 8 cracks in it.

Full-Race Henry

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akaEsCo01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i have to say is rebuild the bottom end with forged pieces and then goto full-race.com</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the Best answer.

nY's FiNeSt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF8_Fan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I hate drag too, but on my stock B18C i made 260whp at 6psi with 310's, vafc, 12:1 fmu, and a 255 hp FP. with a drag kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you hate the drag kit with those numbers? lol

ExospeedAMcrx

Whats wrong with the DRAG Kit. Hundreds of people the past 8 years have been using the DRAG kit. and putting out good numbers on them. I have personally have seen many many 12 sec setups on just the Basic Drag kit.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock B18C i made 260whp at 6psi with 310's, vafc, 12:1 fmu, and a 255 hp FP. with a drag kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are these numbers not good? what are you expecting at 6psi. these are great results.

For the novice Turbo person... I'd think about doing a kit like DRAG or REV HARD. if you are comfortable with doign your own kit, thats fine too.. but research first if you arent familiar with turbo systems that much.

Wil

silverEH2

if u are going to settle with a kit, please dont get the drag kit.....make a smart choice and go for the rev hard.....

ExospeedAMcrx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silverEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u are going to settle with a kit, please dont get the drag kit.....make a smart choice and go for the rev hard.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree that the DRAG kits isnt the ALL out Turbo kit. I would change the Wastegate myself.

Just curious. What are your personal expereinces that you dont like it so much.
Can you explain? thanks.

ExospeedAMcrx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akaEsCo01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i have to say is rebuild the bottom end with forged pieces and then goto full-race.com</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hehe easier said than done...