does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars?
07-29-2003, 05:50 PM
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does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars?
i'm thinking about putting one, but does it really help out some?
also..has anybody heard of using a 94 accord dx dizzy cap instead of the msd one?
also..has anybody heard of using a 94 accord dx dizzy cap instead of the msd one?
07-29-2003, 06:26 PM
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Re: does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars? (93hb)
dont wanna burst bubbles, but I would spend that money elswhere
get your car an EMS or find something cheaper, but MSD will not give you the control you need
get your car an EMS or find something cheaper, but MSD will not give you the control you need
07-29-2003, 07:06 PM
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Re: does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars? (stierhund)
well, i'm getting the msd sci box for free..all i would have to buy is the cap, coil, and wires.
07-30-2003, 07:07 PM
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Re: does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars? (stierhund)
???
MSD seems to have made a heck of a better difference in throttle response, I recommend msd
MSD seems to have made a heck of a better difference in throttle response, I recommend msd
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Re: (GSRswapandbanned)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRswapandbanned »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and that gets you?????
Nothing. You'll never see any kinda gain other than a smoother idle...and POSSIBLY..a little sooner on throttle response. Nothing that would help you win a race.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you might not win a race, but it will help the life of your motor.
Nothing. You'll never see any kinda gain other than a smoother idle...and POSSIBLY..a little sooner on throttle response. Nothing that would help you win a race.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you might not win a race, but it will help the life of your motor.
08-02-2003, 11:16 AM
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Re: (espanol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by espanol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you might not win a race, but it will help the life of your motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>Agreed
you might not win a race, but it will help the life of your motor.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Agreed
08-02-2003, 12:24 PM
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Re: (turbocivic4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbocivic4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Agreed</TD></TR></TABLE>
how????? Its not going to prevent detonation, and if anything it will cause more strain to your ignitor. And when that fails, you dont go anywhere.
msd + honda = worthless
how????? Its not going to prevent detonation, and if anything it will cause more strain to your ignitor. And when that fails, you dont go anywhere.
msd + honda = worthless
08-02-2003, 12:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VaporTrail »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
msd + honda = worthless</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, but...
msd + aem ems + honda = NO MORE SHITTY ICM's or even stock coil's......which will leave you stranded quite often.
msd + honda = worthless</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, but...
msd + aem ems + honda = NO MORE SHITTY ICM's or even stock coil's......which will leave you stranded quite often.
08-03-2003, 01:00 AM
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so by list prices you're spending upwards of 1500 bucks to "fix" something that isn't broken? Properly maintained, OEM honda ignitions do not pose a problem nor are they a hinderance up to and exceeding 500whp.
08-03-2003, 07:05 AM
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Re: (93LSivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
msd + aem ems + honda = NO MORE SHITTY ICM's or even stock coil's......which will leave you stranded quite often.
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No, msd + aem ems + honda = rich man. You got a pretty sister so that I can marry into a family that tosses money around like that?
I'm not criticising anybody... I do see where the above setup is an improvement... but I don't see where it merits the money it costs. With current freeware tools and a little inclination you can have full engine control and adequate ignition (albeit you retain the ignitor) for under $150 which is a tenth the price of the above setup.
If you're a no-bullshit mentality who likes having only the best because you do everything right the first time - more power to you. But I'd like to point out that my zero bling 12 second work truck spec CRX HF daily driver only cost me $2200 if I don't count tires (heh) or all the money dumped into fixing it after roomates wrecked it 3 times and two different neighbors backed into it. Do you want to spend your money on every aspect of the car, or just on the things that need attending to is the bottom line.
msd + aem ems + honda = NO MORE SHITTY ICM's or even stock coil's......which will leave you stranded quite often.
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No, msd + aem ems + honda = rich man. You got a pretty sister so that I can marry into a family that tosses money around like that?
I'm not criticising anybody... I do see where the above setup is an improvement... but I don't see where it merits the money it costs. With current freeware tools and a little inclination you can have full engine control and adequate ignition (albeit you retain the ignitor) for under $150 which is a tenth the price of the above setup.
If you're a no-bullshit mentality who likes having only the best because you do everything right the first time - more power to you. But I'd like to point out that my zero bling 12 second work truck spec CRX HF daily driver only cost me $2200 if I don't count tires (heh) or all the money dumped into fixing it after roomates wrecked it 3 times and two different neighbors backed into it. Do you want to spend your money on every aspect of the car, or just on the things that need attending to is the bottom line.
08-03-2003, 07:20 AM
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i wouldn't of put that damn MSD in my car but i got the whole system for free from my buddy cause he used it and fried his electrical system in his car by hooking it up wrong. it just gives me one more thing to worry about when my car's not running right. although it does somewhat help with throttle response and idleing somewhat.
08-03-2003, 06:09 PM
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My msd got 2 stage rev limiter so i can launch at a consistent rev everytime, but the whole ignition setup only costed 190 bucks and to me that aint ****. But whats the situation about the ems engine management, how can you get your car running right boosted without stand alone or are you talkin bout just using a piggy back computer?
I never had a clue you guys all use stock ignitions, preferably I like to do things right the first time now from previous experiences.
I never had a clue you guys all use stock ignitions, preferably I like to do things right the first time now from previous experiences.
08-03-2003, 07:41 PM
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Re: does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars? (93hb)
From what ive read/experienced a few years ago, there were noted problems
in honda ignitors from 8x-95. If i remember there are three different ones that
were used. OKI, NEC, and i cant remember the other one. Some were black, and
some were brown... a certain color/brand were succeptible to failure. I
had an ignitor problem in my CRX when i got it 3 or 4 years ago, and replaced
it with the better brand and havnt had a problem since.
To those who have had mulitple ignitor failures, i suspect its a case of going back
to the dealer, and purchasing another crap-brand ignitor. Since the dealer is
probably going to stock a large quantity of the same type ignitor.
Another useful tip, is that igntiors for 88-91 cars are much less expensive than
ignitors for newer cars. It seems that the newer your car the more they ream you,
even though they are all the same in fit and fuction.
in honda ignitors from 8x-95. If i remember there are three different ones that
were used. OKI, NEC, and i cant remember the other one. Some were black, and
some were brown... a certain color/brand were succeptible to failure. I
had an ignitor problem in my CRX when i got it 3 or 4 years ago, and replaced
it with the better brand and havnt had a problem since.
To those who have had mulitple ignitor failures, i suspect its a case of going back
to the dealer, and purchasing another crap-brand ignitor. Since the dealer is
probably going to stock a large quantity of the same type ignitor.
Another useful tip, is that igntiors for 88-91 cars are much less expensive than
ignitors for newer cars. It seems that the newer your car the more they ream you,
even though they are all the same in fit and fuction.
08-04-2003, 02:22 PM
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Re: does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars? (rioninja)
I want to hear more about MSD ingnitions and Hondas. Do you guys really think they don't do anything? I would like to hear from some guys with some racing experience or those who are running 10 psi of boost or more.
08-04-2003, 03:13 PM
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Re: does the msd sci really make a difference on boosted cars? (TurboCX)
I'm happy with my Digital 6+, MSD cap, and MSD coil... although I might replace my blaster 2 coil sometime soon, the other day my car misfired/died a few times and I think the coil is the culprit. No problems other than that day in the past 7 months on my boosted LS.
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