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Old 12-31-2001, 05:18 PM
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Default MSD effective??

just wondering guys...

ive searched a few posts, but have not gotten any real opinions on this issue...

i was wondering if anyone noticed a difference in power with a MSD 6a ignition amp. they say stock ignition is sufficient enough... but in forced induction cases... it might be better to use a MSD setup, so ive heard. i already have a MSD dist. cap and im running an external blaster coil with the stock ignition. i was wondering if any of you out there have experienced better times or noticable power using the MSD6 series amps.

any opinions will be considered. even dumb *** ones.
Old 12-31-2001, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

I just got the MSD 6A, MSD cap, MSD blaster coil, and MSD wires for christmas.

They aren't installed yet because I am waiting on a headgasket to put on my car so I can finally put my engine back in my car.

But I have a question about the MSD Distributer cap. You know the little red circle thing on the inside of the cap? Does that need to be removed to put the cap on the distributer? This is probably the dumbest question I have ever asked. But, I think it needs to come off, but don't know how.

thanks,

you can laugh if you want!

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Old 12-31-2001, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (ajn)

if you are talking about the red rubber at the bottom of the tower - it needs to stay there...
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (TurboITR)

I just partially installed my msd 6btm/coil/cap and waiting to have time to finish it.. so i have time in case it dont start...

i think it will work better than stock ignition.. more spark/voltage etc... allows more fuel to burn and less chances of spark blowout at high boost levels...

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Default Re: MSD effective?? (TurboITR)

if you are talking about the red rubber at the bottom of the tower - it needs to stay there...
so when you put on the cap, did you have to sort of force it on the distributer to bolt it down?

thanks in advance,

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Old 12-31-2001, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (ajn)

Make sure you remove the factory coil.

Regarding whether or not it works, on a car we were encountering
misfire past 11psi, once we installed the MSD, misfire gone.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

i felt it when i hook it up i got the msd 6t /blaster 2 coil /8738 rev control i can rev higher and still make power and my power with the turbo was not that clean at high boost in to i got the msd setup and i got accel wires and it make a cool wiss sound to when u get in the rpm's to
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (GSRwBOOST)

it will work better than stock ignition.. more spark/voltage etc... allows more fuel to burn and less chances of spark blowout at high boost levels...

<--- jakes theory
Ditto...provides a hotter, "cleaner" spark, which for FI ingines is really a necessity, less chance of miss-fire and what GSRwBOOST stated...

also, when my MSD was installed the dyno graph "smoothed" out considerably...into a smooth acrching curve instead of more jagged and jumpy, especially at higher rpms...this was due to better burniong of available fuel due to hotter spark.

MSD ignition...dont leave home without it...presonally I like the idea of MSD BTM so you can run stock ignition and then it retards only under boost...adjustable from .5 to 3 degress of retard per pound of boost.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (sgT)

Make sure you remove the factory coil.
oh yeaaaaaa,

I knew I was doing something stupid!

thanks for the help.

later,

aj
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

So if I get the MSD SCI 2 step should I also get the coil? How is the install, difficult or relatively simple?
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (Nieman)

well the btm is 8 wires total... it's not that hard. I have the diagrams for a honda that i got off a site... if you need them it shows how to add one to a honda w/ external coil, which i recommend with any aftermarket ignition, otherwise you dont get the benefits of greater spark, w/ a stock coil.

get msd cap, coil, ignition of your choice... it can't hurt having it...
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (Nieman)

I wouldnt bother with the SCI.
I would stick with the 6AL.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (sgT)

whys that?
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

From what I have heard, you dont need to upgrade the ignition until you pass 300 horsepower, until then keep it stock.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (Nieman)

6AL = 175
SCI-L = 240

Price is the primary reason. Otherwise they should be about the same.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

i put mine on(6al and blaster ss) back when i ws running 8 lbs and i could tell a huge difference.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (turbotypeR)

i use msd6a whit retard units
i like it especialy when i was nitrous
huge difference on timing less detonation
now on my fi i cant tell the difference cuz msd was already install

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From what I have heard, you dont need to upgrade the ignition until you pass 300 horsepower, until then keep it stock.
thats whut ive heard too... but im sure from all these opinions... it actually is effective.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (turbotypeR)

i put mine on(6al and blaster ss) back when i ws running 8 lbs and i could tell a huge difference.
like what kind of differences?
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

I bought the MSD Soft Touch Revlimter and have the MSD BTM from my FMAX kit. Since I have this much already, should I sell what I have and spend the next little bit to upgrade to the MSD 6BTM? This is for 9psi.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (dlplayboy)

From what I have heard, you dont need to upgrade the ignition until you pass 300 horsepower, until then keep it stock.

thats whut ive heard too... but im sure from all these opinions... it actually is effective.

Hey it will make a difference, BUT your money can be better spent to make more horsepower. In other words it not the best bang for the buck.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (Nieman)

The install is very easy and the MSD documentaion is very clear. I am very happy with my setup, SCI-L, Blaster SS, MSD Cap.

The rev limiter is very, very important, I cant seem to stay off of it when I race, would have blown my engine FOR SURE without it.

Also, the SCI-L uses multiple sparks per combustion event, that means you have a much better chance of complete combustion.
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (philo)

I have a MSD 6A with Blaster SS external coil and NGK PowerCables. Don't know if it made a difference or not since I was already running this setup before turbo was installed, but it made a huge difference when I was running NA I don't need the 6AL/BTM because my Link ECU can retard/advance ignition by itself SMOOTH power!!
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Default Re: MSD effective?? (nathan's boosted civic)

well, i dont feel a difference BUT i am able to advance my timing WAAAAY beyond what I should be running and apparently I get better gas mileage since I have been quite surprised with how much i had left on many occasions where i had put hundreds of miles on without having to fill up again. i never get any pinging or knocking, either. I have MSD 6A, SS coil, Magnecor wires and NKG plugs. I would say it works quite well.
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