curt801

what turbo would be best. I only want to boost 5-7 psi. the block and the head will be stock. I am not looking to make huge amounts of hp power just a little boost. the rest of the kit will be pretty much junkyard, dsm stuff and i still haven't figured out what I want to do for engine management. i am going to keep it obd0. any suggestions?

crxnj

Get turboedit..Turboedit.org ,,Xenocron.com..And get a small turbo like t3,14b,t25 from a junkyard or ebay or whatever..Depending on how much power you make you may be able to get away with stock fuel injecters and fuel pump..

Joseph Davis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by curt801 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am going to keep it obd0. any suggestions? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Only D16A1 that are OBD0 come in 88-89 Integras. The 86-87 Integra and swaps into the 85-87 Civic Si are pre-OBD and different pinouts.

Just want to make sure we're all on the same page. If your distributor *does not* have vacuum dashpots, you are OBD0 and good to run Turboedit.

crxnj

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Only D16A1 that are OBD0 come in 88-89 Integras.The 86-87 Integra and swaps into the 85-87 Civic Si are pre-OBD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pre-obd,non-obd and obd0 is all the same thing..Some people just call it different names for some reason..Pre 91 cars all have no onboard diagnastics..

Joseph Davis

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Pre-obd,non-obd and obd0 is all the same thing..Some people just call it different names for some reason..Pre 91 cars all have no onboard diagnastics..</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.pgmfi.org

We set the nomenclature, you parrot us. That is the food chain.

Not to mention, when 88-91 cars are called OBD0, how the expletive do you discern them from the earlier generation of ECUs that didn't control ignition timing? It's called pre-OBD, whether you like it or not, or think the term is correct. IT IS NOT ALL THE SAME THING.

crxnj

obd = on board diagnastics..88-91 cars didnt have it so in my eyes they are pre obd..If there is such thing as obd0 then what does it stand for .? On board diagnastcis 0..?? Doesnt make any sense..Not trying to be an as*hole or anything..

Joseph Davis

So we can call all 85-91 cars pre-OBD, and cause a fuckton of confusion, when the existing jargon breaks the distinctive generations of hardware down in a discernable fashion that is accepted by the people who actually deal in the ECUs you know nothing about, yet feel free to opine on?

Oh, dear, I stand corrected!



I'm serious, but I'm playing it up. No offense.

crxnj

No I call all cars before the year 91 pre-obd..I am well aware of the differences between the 88-89 and 90-91 ecus and pre 88 but the fact is that there is no obd on either ones ..So its still pre obd in my eyes..

Joseph Davis

http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin/view/Library/OBD0

Taken from this link, top center:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"OBD0" is not an official standard like OBD2. It is most usually used to refer to MPFI ECUs made from 88-91 with Electronic Advance Distributors found on OBD0 MPFI cars of this era. Technically, all ECUs made prior to 1988 and all accord/prelude/v6/OBD0 Vtec ECUs of this era are also "OBD0" but due to the drastic differences, they are grouped seperately and referred to as "pre-OBD" ECUs</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you don't like it, you're seven years too late on the scene.

crxnj

OK, I understand what you mean now about the confusions of grouping them together..But you understand where I'm coming from with this right?

blackeg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by curt801 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what turbo would be best. I only want to boost 5-7 psi. the block and the head will be stock. I am not looking to make huge amounts of hp power just a little boost. the rest of the kit will be pretty much junkyard, dsm stuff and i still haven't figured out what I want to do for engine management. i am going to keep it obd0. any suggestions? </TD></TR></TABLE>

50 trim t3/t4, .48 turbine. you can also run a super 60 or 60 trim t3. the a1 is basically a 1.6l ls and a stout motor. the heads do have trouble flowing lots of hp, similar to an ls, though i do know someone who was making 400hp on a fully built a1. if u are obd0 run turboedit.

Joseph Davis

Record for stock LS head is 850 whp on built 2.0 bottom end, thanks.

Plenty of unported examples of SOHC D16 floating around hitting over 400 whp on T04E compressors... D16A1 is going to outflow those, just like ZC.

D16A1 --&gt; ZC --&gt; LS, if you lay the heads side by side they are all obviously related design.