Javier23

Im ready to dyno run the new SC61. The set-up briefly:
- JE 9.0:1
- Darton sleeves
- Eagle H-Beams
- FAST ECU
- 65lb injectors
- Holley 255 FI fuel pump
- 3" Thermal exhaust
-.8 bar tial wastegate spring in a 38mm WG
- AEM fuel pressure regulator on AEM rail


Where's the weak link here? What wont hold up to 450+ HP? How far should
I push it? Im feeling unsure about those Eagle rod bolts. I appreciate your comments.


Modified by exsleeper at 2:17 PM 12/12/2003


Modified by exsleeper at 2:30 PM 12/13/2003

JDogg

get some bigger injectors and make sure its tuned good. just cause you have FAST dosnt mean the tuner knows what they are doing....

MotorMatrix.com

i dont trust the eagles myself. how can you spend the extra $$$ on darton and skimp on the rods?? I would rather go GE and save some money there and throw some bulletproof pauters in there. just my opinion.

TeStUdO

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exsleeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Im ready to dyno run the new SC61. The set-up briefly:
- JE 9.0:1
- Darton sleeves
- Eagle H-Beams
- FAST ECU
- 65lb injectors
- Holley 255 FI fuel pump
- 3" Thermal exhaust

Where's the weak link here? What wont hold up to 450+ HP? How far should
I push it? Im feeling unsure about those Eagle rod bolts. I appreciate your comments.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have a nice setup, 450 shouldnt be a problem with a good tuner. The rods are your weakpoint though.

Javier23

I F'd up . This is last years rebuild and I expected it to blow up by now.

AVATAR

I'd definately say your injectors. You'll max them out before the Eagles. Up for the Eagle haters

JDogg

i have seen eagles take some serious power. for what he is doing they will be fine.

ItsStockOfficer

On a typical DSM eagles hold up to 550 whp without any prob whatsoever. The eagle hardware should be fine.

Javier23

Looks like I should be OK then.

*Boostwerks*

I also agree that the eagles will be fine.

However, you will most likely max out those injectors around 400whp.

DaveF

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also agree that the eagles will be fine.

However, you will most likely max out those injectors around 400whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

Javier23

I went on the RC injector page a while back and it said that I needed like 1400cc injectors to get around 500hp. If thats true then I'm way short with my 682cc's. Or are 1400's too much.

*Boostwerks*

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exsleeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I went on the RC injector page a while back and it said that I needed like 1400cc injectors to get around 500hp. If thats true then I'm way short with my 682cc's. Or are 1400's too much.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Never use that injector calculator. It never seems to work for us Honda Peeps.

I would say at least 720cc's...but just to stay safe I would look into some Precision 880ccs... That way to dont have to sell them if your looking for over 500hp one day.

ItsStockOfficer

Also, if the eagle hardware is a weak link for Honda's, as my honda friend is telling me (DSM's don't seem to have this issue, do we get a larger bolt then you?) then changing the rod bolts is easy, drop the oil pan and do that, its a messy few hours but its better then the alternative.

ItsStockOfficer

ItsStockOfficer: I posted again
ItsStockOfficer: Honda-Tech.com: Concerns over high boost.
maskednegator: i think you actually have to rethread the rods to do this
ItsStockOfficer: WTF
maskednegator: yeah
maskednegator: it ain't htat easy
ItsStockOfficer: Why the hell can't arp make a hard ware with the right pitch
maskednegator:


Me sticks to DSM advice

Javier23

ARP 2000, 5/16" bolts standard (230,000 psi).

Trak_Day

Honestly, not only do your injectors seem to be a little weak and the rods not my choice, But is that IC in the picture the one you are using? Looks kind of small? I could be wrong but you may see some high end restrictions if its not big enough. Then again i dont know the specs on it so i could be completely wrong.

Good luck and it sounds like it will definately put some power down!

dfoxengr

i dont trust eagles for FI at all. seen them break many times in friends cars.

Foozball26

i hope people realize that eagle rods fail b/c of improper installation.

people say the bolts are the weak point...why?

improper torquing

Theres always gonna be people who hate a product b/c it failed for them, after that people jump on the bandwagon honda-tech is so famous for.

your rods are fine as long as they were torqued properly.

Javier23

I indeed am suffering from intercooler envy right now. Im basically running a F-max kit and that is what came with it. I was thinking of going with a Precision product in this area also.

If I start losing sleep over the rod bolt torque, is it just a matter of dropping the oil pan to double-check or will it get more involved than that?

dfoxengr

thats all u have to do, basically.

Javier23

Thanks, I just might do that. I couple of years ago I bent a bunch of valves because of an improperly installed cam gear bolt.