chickenbandit

Hello honda techs. I thought I would share my build and also take on some much needed advice.
This is my first forced induction build
The engine is just about finished.

My goal: 700whp reliable on e85 only.

My build: LsVtec
84mm golden eagle HD block
cp 9.8:1 pistons
Pauter x beam rods
Polished Ls crank
Arp bearings
Type R oil pump/ water pump
Oem timing belt
Gsr girdle w/arp main studs
acL bearings
Golden eagle head gasket
Arp head studs
97 Itr head w/ super tech valves,springs, retainers
Stock Itr ports
Skunk2 Pro 1 cams
Pro series cam gears.
Victor X intake manifold.
70mm skunk2 throttle body
I/D 2000cc injectors
Aem fuel rail & regulator
Oem fuel tank w/ full blown dual pump hanger
Two walbro 400 fuel pumps
-8 fuel feed line
-6 fuel return line
Aeromotive fpr

Modified full race ram horn

Precision 6265 turbo
x2 tial mvs waste gates
800hp Garrett inter cooler
Hondata s300 v2
boost by gear
Tuner view 2
Hondata CPR
Hondata traction control
All this is going into a 1993 integra

I have some questions and concernes about parts of my build.

TheShodan

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You can't do 700whp and "affordable".. its all going to cost you. A 31 X 12 X 3.5" Garrett will fit the bill (Precision 750hp intercoolers don't actually support 700whp.)

Better get some Skunk2 Pro1 camshafts or Web Cams, or DDTECH cams to do it reliably

Turbo size will support that power over 30-34psi .

NotARaCist

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Also, ITR/GSR/LS oil pumps are all the same. Same part number in the Acura catalog.

SiRCiviC94

why do 95% of people uprgade the ls oil pump then so it seems? b16 is different?

CaramelBrown

Interesting build

chickenbandit

I know that the oil pumps are the same, I just say Itr so there won't be any confusion.

Shodan do I really need to upgrade to pro 1's?
seems a little to agressive. Why do you think I should do this?

Snailor Built

Yes you will need to upgrade camshafts, you want 700whp in a Honda, there is nothing subtle about that. So as to call a camshaft aggressive is a tad bit ridiculous. The tuner1's are a fancy ITR camshaft. You may hit your HP goal, but if you want to do it right the first time around, then listen to him. I had GSR cams in my car and they were not happy past 600+

NotARaCist

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Because there are a lot of ignorant people out there who don't know that they're the same, and have no problem paying for an overpriced pump from aftermarket vendors. I've seen a few companies selling "ITR" pumps for $150+, when you can find them from online dealerships for less than that.

chickenbandit

Ok I'll definately talk to my tuner about it.
I believe when I asked him if these would work, I said i wanted 600whp and it was a different turbo

TheShodan

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Pro1 is not nearly as "aggressive" as you think.. having a lope in a camshaft doesn't necessarily mean aggressive..

For your goal you need much more duration and some additional lift than a GS-R or even Type R can offer. Its great that we can celebrate the fact that turbocharging a B-series VTEC engine with stock camshafts can do quite well.. Once you get over the 400whp, that's when you need to look to additional camshafts to make the most of it.. Yes, it can be done with OEM, but it just makes the entire engine system work that much harder. So yes. Not just "aggressive" camshafts, but better camshafts.

Discosteak

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I just upgraded to skunk 2 pro1's. I went from GSR cams at 650whp. The turbo spools alot earlier and they want to make power past the 9800rpm rev limit. Money well spent. The difference is night and day. I did have a set of rocket m22's in the car in between the gsr's and skunks, but they never felt right then snapped an exhaust cam.

TheShodan

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This is true.. Over 720whp, though I'd look into something like a DDTECH or a Web. The skunk2 Pro1 has its limits

chickenbandit

Thanks for the info guys. Keep it coming.

SiRCiviC94

hang on so how much is a new oil pump going to usually run? sorry for a brief thread jacking ! this is news to me

I just looked up an ls oil pump showed 151$ with a pr4 PN. then a 2000 ITR p72 PN for 111$ mind you the ls I used year 1995. whats the diff?

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal

rs250nut

ahem, speed factory.................

dcmatt

iTrader: (7)

I think speedfactory was using a pro2 intake and pro1 exhaust at some point.

TheShodan

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Your point being............? ..... Example?

justYncredible

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The 96+ use a different timing belt cover than the 94-95 gsr and or ls oil pumps

SiRCiviC94

so a 95 ls block can use the 96+ if I use a diff cover? saves money

justYncredible

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It's a lower timing belt cover. What I had to do is buy the 96+ B series cover and oil pump. The 94-95 cover doesn't fit the 96+ and vise versa. You save money on the pump but you have to get the different cover so you end spending a little more. Is it worth it? Yep! Why? Because you don't want that area expose,

cruizinmax

iTrader: (2)

The difference is the crank sensor. OBD2 oil pumps are different because they have to mount a crank sensor. The timing belt cover is different too to cover said sensor.

justYncredible

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Co-sign
I forgot about that damn sensor.

SiRCiviC94

fair enough so an obd1 pump is going to need used on that block if I even put a new oil pump in that spare build lol

this build here. big gains to be had with some major port work on the head why not go all out ?

TheShodan

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Because in turbocharging it won't make the "big gains" you think it will on the "port" work..Save the money on other areas to keep the system more reliable.

Stealthmode Performance

I run the FBM dual pump hanger with 2 FBM 340lph pumps, E85, -6 feed and return, 2000cc injectors to 713hp on a 62/66 @ 35psi, and I'm not running out of fuel anytime soon.