is this causing my smoke problem??
03-29-2006, 08:18 AM
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is this causing my smoke problem??
Here is a picture
I think that it is too flat to drain?? Help me out i am tired of driving spy hunter!!!
I think that it is too flat to drain?? Help me out i am tired of driving spy hunter!!!
03-29-2006, 08:36 AM
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maybe try getting a shorter return line so it doesnt have so much slack. Do you have a bigger picture so we can see where the turbo sits to see if it is even possible to get a better angle?
PS i love spy hunter lol
PS i love spy hunter lol
03-29-2006, 10:27 AM
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Re: (nonvtecD)
here are a couple more pics, sorry best i could do with the space.
Modified by mraudio13 at 1:46 PM 3/29/2006
Modified by mraudio13 at 1:46 PM 3/29/2006
03-29-2006, 11:10 AM
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Re: (nonvtecD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, we need better pics. Reasons for smoke:
1. Turbo seals 2. Bad return line 3. Too big of a feed line 4. Rings You decide.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Add to that #5. not enough crankcase ventilation-->install some sort of crankcase pressure evacuation system. Without it, due to the increased crankcase pressure from a turbo, the pressure will try to escape out of the oil return line, causing oil to leak out of the turbo seals.
1. Turbo seals 2. Bad return line 3. Too big of a feed line 4. Rings You decide.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Add to that #5. not enough crankcase ventilation-->install some sort of crankcase pressure evacuation system. Without it, due to the increased crankcase pressure from a turbo, the pressure will try to escape out of the oil return line, causing oil to leak out of the turbo seals.
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03-29-2006, 11:15 AM
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Yeah, we need better pics. Reasons for smoke:
1. Turbo seals : Still an avenue I haven't checked (don't want to take off head just yet)
compression check 1:225 2:225 3:225 4:225 leakdown 1:8% 2:8% 3:9% 4:9%
2. Bad return line: is number 1 culpret right now
3. Too big of a feed line: -3an could put in a restrictor??
4. Rings:
5. pcv systrem: current setup line from stock oil can on back of motor (no pcv valve) to catchcan to atmosphere, valve cover outlet to atmosphere.
1. Turbo seals : Still an avenue I haven't checked (don't want to take off head just yet)
compression check 1:225 2:225 3:225 4:225 leakdown 1:8% 2:8% 3:9% 4:9%
2. Bad return line: is number 1 culpret right now
3. Too big of a feed line: -3an could put in a restrictor??
4. Rings:
5. pcv systrem: current setup line from stock oil can on back of motor (no pcv valve) to catchcan to atmosphere, valve cover outlet to atmosphere.
03-29-2006, 01:19 PM
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Yeah, looks like your return is the problem. AN 3 is fine for a feed line. That return is not getting enough gravity. You're going to have to figure out how to get it more vertical, good luck.
03-29-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: (br1ev8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by br1ev8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Add to that #5. not enough crankcase ventilation-->install some sort of crankcase pressure evacuation system. Without it, due to the increased crankcase pressure from a turbo, the pressure will try to escape out of the oil return line, causing oil to leak out of the turbo seals.</TD></TR></TABLE>
were u born stupid?
Add to that #5. not enough crankcase ventilation-->install some sort of crankcase pressure evacuation system. Without it, due to the increased crankcase pressure from a turbo, the pressure will try to escape out of the oil return line, causing oil to leak out of the turbo seals.</TD></TR></TABLE>
were u born stupid?
03-29-2006, 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were u born stupid?
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Umm, crankcase pressure will do a lot of things, I would know, so... to you
</TD></TR></TABLE>Umm, crankcase pressure will do a lot of things, I would know, so...
to you
03-29-2006, 06:31 PM
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Re: (Flr Power)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flr Power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say blown turbo seals.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Turbo is brand new, I thought that was the problem so i got a new turbo...Matt
Turbo is brand new, I thought that was the problem so i got a new turbo...Matt
03-29-2006, 07:23 PM
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Re: (shortyz21)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were u born stupid?
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Good job looking like an idiot... I can attest to first hand how a sealed pcv system will push oil out the turbo seals.... my rigged catchcan has both VC and PCV system into it... frozen vapor clogged both lines and I was instant Spy Hunter.... cleared them... gone.
A good PCV system is so easily overlooked... and the one mentioned by the thread starter isn't going to be causing his issue.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Good job looking like an idiot... I can attest to first hand how a sealed pcv system will push oil out the turbo seals.... my rigged catchcan has both VC and PCV system into it... frozen vapor clogged both lines and I was instant Spy Hunter.... cleared them... gone.
A good PCV system is so easily overlooked... and the one mentioned by the thread starter isn't going to be causing his issue.
03-29-2006, 07:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were u born stupid?
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That's it?? Your single contribution to this thread is to call me stupid and then give no reason for making such an accusation....wtf? Whatever, I guess this is what I should expect from the ignorant and uneducated.
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's it?? Your single contribution to this thread is to call me stupid and then give no reason for making such an accusation....wtf? Whatever, I guess this is what I should expect from the ignorant and uneducated.
03-30-2006, 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by splitime »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can attest to first hand how a sealed pcv system will push oil out the turbo seals.... my rigged catchcan has both VC and PCV system into it... frozen vapor clogged both lines and I was instant Spy Hunter.... cleared them... gone.
A good PCV system is so easily overlooked... and the one mentioned by the thread starter isn't going to be causing his issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So the way I have mine hooked up is ok??
VC to atmosphere
Black box on back of block to catchcan to atmosphere (no pcv valve installed)
A good PCV system is so easily overlooked... and the one mentioned by the thread starter isn't going to be causing his issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So the way I have mine hooked up is ok??
VC to atmosphere
Black box on back of block to catchcan to atmosphere (no pcv valve installed)
03-30-2006, 02:11 PM
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I think the drain is acceptable, ive seen worse. Its got no kinks and its elevated higher than the oil drain bung on the oil pan.
read my findings https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1544369
An easy test that i did was pull valve cover and rear PCV valve and take it out for a little drive and see what happens. if the smoke clears than you know what is causing your smoke screen issues.
read my findings https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1544369
An easy test that i did was pull valve cover and rear PCV valve and take it out for a little drive and see what happens. if the smoke clears than you know what is causing your smoke screen issues.
03-30-2006, 03:53 PM
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my return looks very similar to that...
and my car smokes only when i come to a stop after a hard pull or revs constant at 3000+ (freeway)
but when i start moving or revving it stops
and my car smokes only when i come to a stop after a hard pull or revs constant at 3000+ (freeway)
but when i start moving or revving it stops
03-30-2006, 04:29 PM
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with a lowered car, that flat surface of the front of the oilpan isnt exactly perpindicular to the ground as it is...its actually sloped against the desired flow.
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