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Old 04-08-2003, 04:39 PM
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Well it has been over 9 months since I last got to start and drive my car. I had the entire motor built by Viren (B18BTurbo) Sleeved by GE, Eagle rods, Endyn Pistons and a lot of head work. I have custom turbo setup and am running a 255lph walbro fuel pump, 780cc CPR injectors, honda resistor box, GE Fuel Rail, Venom Cam Gears, JG Intake manifold, and an Aeromotive FPR. I just got everything finally back together tonite and tried to fire it up with no luck. I pulled the plugs and they are soaked with fuel. The cylinders are full of gas. I dried off the plugs and I am getting plenty of spark. What can be the problem? Is there anyone near to me that can help out a fellow H-T member if I throw some money there way?
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are you sure you put the timing belt on correctly? Be careful because if you get a bunch of fuel in the cylinders before the rings seat, you will run into problems.
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Default Re: Car won't start help!!!! (18gTeg)

What kind of engine management are you using? I always like to break in motors with stock injectors to ensure a non rich mixture.
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Default Re: Car won't start help!!!! (TurboD16Z6)

I am using Hondata S100
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yeah I have installed them before. I have both marks on the cam gears facing one another with the white mark on the crank pulley lined up with the mark on the timing belt cover.
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when you lined the mark on the crank pully up with the mark on the timing belt cover did you make sure that piston #1 was at TDC?
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well by looking in the spark plug hole it looks to be at the top of the stroke when everything is lined up. I would run the stock rail and injectors but that means that I would need to rip apart all of the wiring again and take back out the resistor pack and run all of my old fuel lines since I upgraded to all braided lines with AN fittings
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Default Re: Car won't start help!!!! (18gTeg)

maybe you have a bad base map?
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well I tried using the stock computer and it still does the same thing
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I dont think your stock computer would idle those injectors anyway.....
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yeah i was told that it could idle even 800cc injectors


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I would do a compression check just to make sure.....but it sounds like timing to me.
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so what should i do?
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Default Re: Car won't start help!!!! (18gTeg)

Your stock ecu would only idle those 720s if you have a gm 3bar map sensor.

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EDIT: 780s


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I do have a GM 3 bar hooked up.
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okay I doubled checked my timing and it seems that when cams are lined up correctly it looks like the white TDC mark on the crank pulley is past the timing cover mark about 1/4inch for some reason. I tried like 10 times to realign everything but it still ends up this far off every time. Anyone have any ideas.
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okay so I swapped in my stock fuel rail with my stock injectors and it still does the same exact thing. I am getting fuel and I am getting spark but it will not even try to start. What can be the problem. I need to get this running ASAP>
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Default Re: Car won't start help!!!! (18gTeg)

pu some ether in the plenum and try starting it up... thers probably a TON of fuel in your combustion chambers now.
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Default Re: Car won't start help!!!! (94goldjungsr)

no I sucked it out with a shop vac. I think that maybe some sensor got hooked up to the wrong plug. How can I tell what plug goes to what? They all look the same. Were can I found out what plug goes to what and what color wires they have?
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