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Old 03-16-2015, 04:47 PM
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I'm pulling the oil pan right now. I lifted the front wheels of the ground and started the motor in 1st gear and recorded.


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Drained the oil and I can see metal flakes, really tiny
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So the cylinder Thats knocking has a stuck rod bearing. It doesn't move around like the others. So is that the problem? Here a vid

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Also found this in the pan. What is it?
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Originally Posted by SergieL

Also found this in the pan. What is it?
Thats a crank pulley key.

You have a spun bearing. Time to buy a new crank and rods. Beating on it with that noise has destroyed the bottom end.
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Thats a crank pulley key.

You have a spun bearing. Time to buy a new crank and rods. Beating on it with that noise has destroyed the bottom end.
How did it destroy the bottom end?

Crank is smooth, can't feel a thing when I swipe my finger nail thru. Just a bearing. I think I got lucky because evwrything in cylinder 3 are is smooth. The rod is smooth aswell, I can only see purple marks from heat and that's about it.












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Originally Posted by SergieL

How did it destroy the bottom end?

Crank is smooth, can't feel a thing when I swipe my finger nail thru. Just a bearing. I think I got lucky because evwrything in cylinder 3 are is smooth. The rod is smooth aswell, I can only see purple marks from heat and that's about it.
Crank is most likely ground down out of spec, rod is now trash. Blueing from heat means the metal is compromised. It also is probably out of spec now.

Just because your nail isnt catching doesnt mean its "good"

Pull the engine apart and have the crank sent to a machine shop to make sure its still within oe tolerances. Its probably trash since from what ive been reading, you kept gettin on it with it knocking.

Rod is trashed.
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Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
Sounds like rod knock buddy. Check your valve lash first tho. Do you have a oil gauge? I wouldnt drive it anymore

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How do the other bearings look like? Did you use plastigage to measure clearance on the rods?
After all you said oil pressure was normal...
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This similar thing happened to a friend a couple weeks ago he didn't drive it like a fool but it got knocking and his bearing just melted instead of spinning ... Had good oil pressure so I'm pretty sure the clearances wer not big enough for boost
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How do the other bearings look like? Did you use plastigage to measure clearance on the rods?
After all you said oil pressure was normal...

Oil pressure was fine, I didn't pull the other bearings because this is the only one I have a problem with. Others looked like they move side to side smoothly but don't move up and down
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I think you do not understand that you MUST take it ALL apart to recheck everything.
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I think you do not understand that you MUST take it ALL apart to recheck everything.

I understand that but there has been spunned bearings that has been changed without turning the crank. If my damage is that bad that I have to turn or replace that crank than I will. I can 2 LS cranks to my disposal.
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Originally Posted by SergieL

I understand that but there has been spunned bearings that has been changed without turning the crank. If my damage is that bad that I have to turn or replace that crank than I will. I can 2 LS cranks to my disposal.
You need a new rod too, and have the rods rebalanced
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To be honest if all youve done is taken the one rod cap off, with what I see, I would throw a new bearing on that rod, re torque it, put the oil pan on back on and see what happens. It would be a miracle but that rod end doesnt look near as bad as that noise was making it out to me
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Metal shavings in the oil pan would make me tear down the motor and clean it



But op seems like a retard so ill wait for his " head and block ruined, why?" Thread
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To be honest if all youve done is taken the one rod cap off, with what I see, I would throw a new bearing on that rod, re torque it, put the oil pan on back on and see what happens. It would be a miracle but that rod end doesnt look near as bad as that noise was making it out to me

That's what I'm going to do for now. I'm thinking about going with s different bottom set up. Ditching the high compression for lower to run higher boost.
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Originally Posted by SergieL
That's what I'm going to do for now. I'm thinking about going with s different bottom set up. Ditching the high compression for lower to run higher boost.
Lmao
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Lmao

What's funny about that?
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Originally Posted by SergieL
I use 93. It can't be detonation because it's one cylinder. Must be piston slap or bearing. I'll try to pull the pan off today and take a look. Car drives fine and no unusual smoke so I would think its a bearing
lol thats pretty terrible logic. You could have a bad plug or cooling issues in that cylinder. Injector could be flowing less or dirty etc.
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lol thats pretty terrible logic. You could have a bad plug or cooling issues in that cylinder. Injector could be flowing less or dirty etc.

It drove perfect so couldn't be detonation I would think. Also, I switched the plugs around. But now I know it's the bearing.
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Originally Posted by m4xwellmurd3r
Crank is most likely ground down out of spec, rod is now trash. Blueing from heat means the metal is compromised. It also is probably out of spec now.

Just because your nail isnt catching doesnt mean its "good"

Pull the engine apart and have the crank sent to a machine shop to make sure its still within oe tolerances. Its probably trash since from what ive been reading, you kept gettin on it with it knocking.

Rod is trashed.
Eh, not exactly. If the crank journal was truly messed up, that bearing and rod would have looked a hell of a lot worse. The crank is hardened, nitride coated steel. If it had real damage, you would know. It probably just needs a polish to be back to normal.

I toasted a rod bearing once and had to drive it 10 miles or back to my house before the knocking really started. Bearing was squeezed out of the rod journal and ate up the crank. Rod was fixed up by machine shop and its been in my car for the last 3 years making 600whp.







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Eh, not exactly. If the crank journal was truly messed up, that bearing and rod would have looked a hell of a lot worse. The crank is hardened, nitride coated steel. If it had real damage, you would know. It probably just needs a polish to be back to normal.

I toasted a rod bearing once and had to drive it 10 miles or back to my house before the knocking really started. Bearing was squeezed out of the rod journal and ate up the crank. Rod was fixed up by machine shop and its been in my car for the last 3 years making 600whp.








Damn that's bad. Do you think that know is really die to this bearing? The rod was stuck and had no movement what so ever on the crank journal, not even side to side.
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That's the outer side of the bad bearing.
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And the inner side...


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