vyrus

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Hey guys I need suggestions on building my block. It's a bone stock B16A.
My aim is 450WHP, not more. So I need suggestions accordingly. Budget is an issue.
Eagle Forged Rods
CP Pistons 9.0:1
ACL Bearings

Now what i want to know is will stock sleeves hold up fine ? Since my goals aren't too high. Head will be stock for now, might upgrade later.

EsotericImage

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for 450 you need to add ALOT more info

vyrus

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like what

EsotericImage

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Im not even going to point out the irony here

vyrus

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If you're asking about the setup, that's not required here.All I need to know is the bottom end requirement to handle ~ 400 whp. You can Facepalm your self out of this thread if you wish.
Thankyou.

yungkhmer

" thats not required here "

wow smartass. **** off, i hope nobody helps you. hopefully someone steers you into the wrong direction because someone like you deserve it.

vyrus

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^ Thank you for your much unappreciated and useless opinion .

yungkhmer

youre welcome dip ****.

SiRCiviC94

Lol more Internet so srs people. The stock block has seen 500 hp what you are building is great for that power. Now I'm wondering when those parts wear out? 20k? 60k? 200k? I know the pistons don't last as long as oem

How much boost do you see yourself using to get up there with your set up?

vyrus

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Finally someone sensible steps in! Well bro i might be upping the boost on my current t04e turbo but later i'll move onto GT35r so around 1.5 bar on GT35r. Might move upto say 2 bar even but nothing more than that. I know aftermarket piston won't last as long as OEM, i just need reliability since it'll be a daily driver.

SiRCiviC94

Sensible lol. I'm curious more details like others still what fuel you want to us what head cams exhaust etc. eventually I'll be slapping a bottom end together just so I can abuse it hard racing the stock won't last for ever lol

2 bar sounds like a lot what tuning software would u use and what injectors ?

dantamparacer

IMO I would go higher than 9.0:1 with a 35r on a b16 there its going to be alot of lag. You might want to think about going a little higher compression so you will build boost quicker. My 35r didn't make full boost until about 5k on my gsr. And with the head being stock you won't want to rev to 10k. But that's just my .02

Slacker93eg

12:1 CR do it.

dantamparacer

I was thinking 9.5:1 or 10.0:1 but hey what ever works for you. If you are at altitude like colorado the cars are running more compression on high boost. Just might want to think about using methanol

vyrus

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tune using power fc or stay with Neptune. Fuel will be pump gas, head will have to be stock for now since i won't be increasing the redline anytime soon anyway.
injectors are 550cc atm but will upgrade to ID 1000s when im building. I know the rest, just wanted to know if sleeves are necessary.

4genaccordfreak

To answer your primary question...

A safe/reliable block setup would be:

-Proper block machining - P2W clearancing, specific hone for whatever rings that come with your pistons, line hone, deck resurface etc.
-Between 400-450whp stock sleeves will work. Anything above 450whp, I would be careful...
-Any good quality piston manufacturer (C/R between 9.5-10:1),
-Eagle rods (for bang-for-buck),
-ARP hardware (main studs and head studs)
-Stick with stock bearings for your power level (IMO they are softer and more forgiving as debris and dirt particles will embed in the material, race bearings do have more clearance choices though)

Finally, clean and proper assembly is key.

I also seen you were thinking of upping boost levels with your current (t3t04e), that turbo will run out of steam getting close to the 400whp mark.
A GT35r on a 1.6L will be very laggy and give you a mildly usable powerband.
A more efficient choice would be a GT28xx - GT30xx or any comparable Precision unit.

TheShodan

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I'd normally not even comment here because of the fact that your attitude towards others needs some work, but the fact that you're using Power FC gave me a soft spot for your situation. Make sure you set the pressure sensor through the commander past 1.6bar so that you don't hit the pre-determined boost cut. I'm the 1% that still use Power FC and I still won't change it up, despite the popular consensus.

4genaccordfreak is basically correct. Using a smaller turbocharger to get to a better/ usable powerband for the B16 would be a better call. Sleeves IMHO are necessary for repeatable use of the car and better safety for you later.