ok i was planning on getting a b16 n turbo, i know the stock block can handle an est. 300HP. say if i wanted to run 350 or 375 what would be the first thing i would have to upgrade to be able to pass 300Hp safely. Pistons/C.Rods, sleeves? Doing the least amount possible

 

-Find a competent builder (you'd be suprised, it might be yourself if you are diligent and careful enough)
-Look to make sure that the management you have will be able to take the power that you want to acheive
-Make sure the turbocharger you have will reach the goals you need, the way you need it to.
-Pistons/rods are the easy part. It's making sure that it can be reliable is where you have to be careful

 

if you looking for only 350-375 you dont need to worry about the block really. setup is the key tho. as long as you have a good tuner that knows what hes doing you should be able to reach that on the stock bottom end. i made 351 wheel uncorrected on my bone stock b16a2 with the peakboost ramhorn kit, pte 880's and e85 on 12lbs.

 

ty if things go as planned i want to use AEM EMS to tune i was thinking hondata s300 but wit the extra features i hear it ='s about same price as the ems.

as for the turbo i am still deciding that as we speak i have another post regrading that. i am currently deciding between:
T3/T4 .50 trim .63ar
T3/T4 .57 trim .63ar /w stage 3 exhaust wheel
There was a very informative post that your where part of regrading a turbo for a B18B and in that post you talked about the GT3251E and also there was talk of GT3255b. i would like to learn more about these two choices, i am willing to spend the extra money if it is the better turbo for my goals (230Hp 4 DD[low boost] 275-290Hp[High Boost], but can handle 400Hp[purpose of this thread in case i ever decide to build up], Quick Spool but can hold power being that the b16 n its 8.2k redline)


idk that scares me 350 on stock block, i plan to keep this car for a while, so going the safe route but not over the top. I want the car to be 400 capable(never actually see that much hp thou) maybe run it to 375 if that if i ever build

 

with S300 there are no options besides boost control. S300 is 595 + install. you'll need a compatible ECU to put it in.

 

yea i understand the whole "safe" thing. thats why i went e85. one of my good friends just put down 421 wheel on the stock block gsr (also on e85). and has been boosted for over 30k miles. best time of 11.54 at 125.

 

that b18 must have been made on a wedensday.

 

lol? ummm not sure what your getting at...

 

thats a lot of power for a stock block... i know a good tuner can really pull power out of a motor but thats pretty risky.

youve never heard the monday wedensday friday jokes about cars?

monday theyre all hung over and pissed that theyre at work
friday no one pays attention cuz they want their weekend

wedensdays the middle, everyone works better.

 

ive heard of people putting down 500 wheel on stock block lasting for over a year. 400 wheel on a gsr isnt hard and still safe. my tuners bother is putting down 460 on the stock block and ran a 10.8x at 130. girlfriend dailys it daily. lol.

 

:-O! thats some rowdy ish! lucky GF

 

I chose the piston/rod route with my turbo'd B16. My power goals weren't high since I only had the greddy kit. I have crower rods and SRP pistons (9.9:1) and I made sure my rod bearings were within spec and as close as possible. I also made sure that my bores were not out-of-round. I then carefully made sure my rings were gapped correctly and my piston-to-wall clearance wasn't excessive.

I put the engine back together, fired her up, had it towed to the tuner, broken in on the dyno. 248whp/215wtq. 17K miles boosted daily, now at 34K total, but NA since 17K miles.

Your choices in the turbos are good, but even a basic T3/T4 .57 trim .63ar will get you to your power goals, plus it is rebuildable. I'm not sure about the GT32 series.

This was my first engine build and I look forward to seeing what I do next.

 

hahahah holy ****! thats the 2nd time ive heard that about my motor ..
yeah i think its a wednsday motor too... when i took the head off like 3 weeks ago after 172k miles you can still see the Hone makrs on the cyl walls! compression was 205 across and leakdown was >1%!!!


To the OP for the price id say either a 50 trim or a 57 trim... 57 trim will be a tad more laggy than the 50trim but it will yield more power... i personally like the 50trim on a b16, unless you are going for mad power...

o and the 460whp stock block car went 10.9@130 not 10.8

 

myles myles myles. always correcting. lol. your like spell check only with times. haha.

 

very helpful ty for your input

as stated above im will to spend the couple hundred extra if its worth it

 

ringlands are the weak point on stock bottom ends. replace the pistons at least and rods would not hurt.

 

dont a lot of the aftermarket pistons need aftermarket rods?

 

I don't think it is necessary, but if you go through the trouble of replacing the pistons, why not take a few extra moments and replace the rods while everything is open.

I bought my car used from a guy who just replaced the pistons. A rod end actually came loose and shot up into a cylinder FUBARing the motor. It was probably the dumbass tech who over torqued the rod bolts in the first place that caused the problem, but if the rods were replaced with beefy aftermarkets this situation might not have happened.

 

you guys read the article in honda-tuning about the 507Hp b16.only mod was 9.0 JE pistons(if im not mistaken)? good article

 

Great article actually. The only thing was that was an engine dyno not too the wheels. But yes the engine did make 500 on a stock block

 

which is about 470 wheel. cant believe they even reused some of the old parts too. ha.

 

more like 425-450 give or take a few... i guess the average 10-15% drivetrain loss... but who knows..

 

so you got like 500 crank then myles?