now i have a stock b18b ls motor running 7-8psi my goal is to have 350-400hp and i will be on a budget for my engine build i know i need pistons rods, i have those covered but what else would be required, i have engine managment under controll
(AEM EMS) any input or first hand knowledge would be greatly appreciated. i will have about $3,000 for the build maybe more
Thanks in advance for the help

Erik

 

bump for now

 

anyone

 

Rings, new bearings, might as well think about doing head studs while you're at it. I'm not touching the head on this go-round. You might want to consider a new oil pump and water pump as well.

I'm doing a d16 build now. There aren't too many other bits you need.

 

so how are the rods and pistons

 

Build it yoruself and save $$$$

sleeves - 1000
rods - 600
pistons - 500
waterpump
oil pump
headgasket
headstuds
seals and gaskets


you can do it for under 3000

 

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If you know what you doing. if not it could cost you money in the long run.

I would go with sleeves. but there are lots of people making good power with stock sleeves.

 

Stock sleeves are fine unless you're going for sick power.

Build it yourself. Even if it blows up, you're out less money if you stay committed and learn from your mistakes. Otherwise you're at the mercy of the builder again when if it blows. Invest the money you would have spent on the builder into tools.

The bottom end isn't bad to do. Mind you I haven't started reassembly. Invest the money into the bore gauge and make sure you double and quadruple check your clearances. Just think everything through beforehand. If it's not going together smoothly, stop and ask questions.

I'm having a pro do the engine hone, though.

 

ok so what tools would i need to build it myself and are there any manuals that go thru step by step on how to do it
i already have all the standard tools sockets screwdrivers wrenches
thanks in advance

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Modified by 99integralsturbo at 9:58 PM 10/29/2003

 

bizzzzump anyone ???

 

used rods and pistons in stock bore..maybe overbore slightly...$500 or so
open deck sleeves: http://www.hondaraceengines.com around $800
bearings....
pumps..
timing belt..
head studs...

you should be able to do it under $2500 if you look around and save

 

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i already have all the standard tools sockets screwdrivers wrenches
thanks in advance


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You won't need many more tools. You'll need a puller, a ring compressor and installer tool - you could probably get a machine shop to do this for you, if you want to save some money. Honeing the block you'll need one of the brush tools, or a shop can do this for you too. You will need a shop to install the wrist pin on the piston/rod.

Other obvious stuff: Torque wrench, plastiguage, bore guage, micrometer, good feeler guages. A tool for removing the god forsaken crankshaft pulley is handy.

Other things that help: A transmission jack, a shop crane - I shopped around and found one for $300cdn with a 3 ton hydraulic jack, overkill in the extreme. And engine stand is a good purchase, but you can make one out of 2x4's pretty cheap.

Most of the rest of the items you need are cleaners, thread sealant, etc etc. Any one of the manuals you can find will give you a good idea of what's involved in the bottom end. Then get a helms for the details. There are some non-import specific books on Amazon that will help you, too.

I'm going to very carefully document my teardown and buildup of the d16. It's my first. If it goes well, I'm doing my H22A prelude next. Maybe it will benefit people online here.

Take it slow, ask questions, if something isn't going together right, don't force it.

 

How can you go about removing and installing the sleeves? I want to start a buildup on my engine soon.

 

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i have a haynes manual already is that the same

 

haynes is complete trash

besides the wrong specs in a lot of cases...it's just not thorough

get a Helms...or have NOTHING

 

I found the Haynes and Chilton manuals I have helped at they have photos and non-ideal-shop procedures and suggestions. They also have photographs; the helms is all engineering drawings. Do not attempt any serious dissassembly without the Helms manuals, though. It is money well spent.

You can't do engine sleeves unless you own a machine shop. They need to be pressed in and decked off to very tight tolerances. Get that done professionally, but you don't need exotic sleeves for most applications. It's cheaper to get the sleeves and have a local shop do it, or have them source the sleeves for you. I also recommend having a machine shop do the bore and hone, that way you know it's done right. All of those proceedures do not cost that much. Sleeving is more expensive but chances are it's not required. If you're on a budget I doubt you'll be making the power that cracks sleeves.

Edit: The biggest asset you need is lots and lots of p a t i e n c e.