rusty93eg

Just wondering if anyone knew somewhere to find good turbo kits for a decent price. I have a 93 eg with a 91 b16a. If I don't do pistons and rods then I'm shooting for 300 to 320 hp. If I do internals then over 400. My first complete build so I am open to logical suggestions. The car is a dd so I'm not looking for 600hp. Thanks for any hrlp.

diatibe24

-Go-Autoworks turbo kit (about 2k)

-1000cc Injectors/255 walboro Fuel Pump (about $500)

-Hondata S300 and tune. (about $1k)

That will meet your power goals. You than you have the task of upgrading everything else on your car to get the most out of it.

dcmatt

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He doesnt have to do s300 if budget is an issue. Chipped ecu on crome or neptune would work fine for what he wants. If you keep up with classifieds sometimes you can find a good budget kit used.

wantboost

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also 1000cc injectors are total overkill for low 300hp power levels.

TravisBiggie

If you know what you're doing, you can do it for about 2k, if you do all the work yourself.

name brand turbo : $500
boost controller : $30 nxs ebay controller
intercooler : 80
piping kit with clamps : 100
450cc dsm injectors : 100
resistor box - 10$ or free at junkyard
wastegate ~150 used
blow off valve - bought my legit greddy for 60$ ($15 for intercooler pipe with welded flange)
walbro 255 fuel pump, 80$
tapped oil pan - $5 for bung, maybe 20-30 to weld at muffler shop
oil feed/return lines, I paid 25 for my -3an feed, and bought a useless kit for 50, which you can buy the hose and fittings for 20$
manifold - can go cheap with cast iron, which hit 300 easily, go for 60-70$ on ebay (I hit 300whp with one no problem)
Downpipes go for 80$ on ebay (3")
arp head studs $120
you will need 2.5" exhaust, or run open downpipe ($?)
dyno tuning/chip about 500$


$1960 on the high side, which doesn't include cat back exhaust, clutch, or wastegate dump.

the limiting factor on this setup is the 450cc injectors. I made 293whp at 14 psi with a 60 trim turbo and dsm 450's on a stock b18b1, the injector were near max duty cycle.

diatibe24

I agree but if he wants or decides later to go 400whp the 450 or 550cc won't cut it. Point being not having to buy injectors twice. Besides if you use 550cc injectors you will have to run thoughs at like 83% duty or higher maybe. I thought you do not want to run more than 80% duty. At least from what I can remember on the S300 it is what they recommend.

wantboost

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still, 750s or 880s is more than enough for 400 on 93

dcmatt

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I like the idea of going with a good 1000cc injector from the get go. It keeps you from having to purchase another set if your goals increase. But if budget is an issue then id agree with wantboost. A good set of used 750s or 880s could be had for 200 used if you look enough.

TravisBiggie

I bought my brand new rc 1000s for 140$.

If you only want 300whp, get dsm 450cc injectors, they are extremely common, and cheap, no reason for bigger injectors unless you plan on shooting for more than 300whp... even if the injectors are only temporary, they are cheap.

Dark_Teg

If you go with I.D. 1000's they idle better than stock so why not? Better than buying injectors twice.

rusty93eg

I've already gotten a clutch and a lsd. Along with a full exaust. Do you have a suggestion as to where I should order a turbo? (And or other miscellaneous Components) $2k sounds good to me I can do a good bit of the work myself with the help of a buddy. That being said. For me getting to 400+ I would probly need about another $1200 right? The tune will be a pain. The closest place I trust is 30 or 40 miles away.

TheShodan

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30-40 miles is not far at all. you just may need to plan the installation to be only about 95% of completion, go to the tuner the morning before your session and finalize injector install (if a "basemap" isn't available) and go from there. 30-40 miles is not a "pain" at all. even if it were towed there.

dcmatt

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Agreed. There are people that drive 4-6 hours to go to a good tuner.

m4xwellmurd3r

Getting to 400hp is gonna cost more than 1200 dollars more I would think. At that point youre gonna want 1000cc injectors, a fully built bottom end, and maybe some cams. Youll probably need a better exhaust manifold than the cast one, but cast might be ok. Not sure on what turbo, but I know a t3/t04b 57 trim garret turbo will hit 400
And at 400 youre gonna want more than just a chip, so something more like chrome or hondata and a wideband. Probably would want to instal an oil pressure gauge too.

dcmatt

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Crome is just a chip basically. Its sooftware that utilizes a chipped ecu. The map has to be burned onto the chip. Neptune is the same unless you get rtp. Crome or neptune would be fine for a budget build. The things that are good about s300, neptune rtp, aem, etc are being able to use more functions and make adjustments with your laptop. Nice to have but not necessary.

averyvm

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Good Info

boostjunkie757

in my opinion budget boost is an oxymoron..

NotARaCist

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I'm surprised no one has said it yet...Speed, reliability, money. You can only have two.

Schister66

"Cost effective" boost then?

I do tend to agree with you but I was in the OP's shoes once...I built 6 different turbo setups on a budget while in college. Student loan checks quickly found their way to the marketplace :p

TravisBiggie

speaking of, I'm selling a precision 5831 comparable turbo (garret parts), good for 500whp. Turbo has 0 miles on it (brand new center housing, new bearings, billet wheel) polished compressor housing, black powder coated exhaust side, .63 ar. Will sell for $580 shipped, I have someone interested in buying it for 580 cash, but its first come first serve.

oil feed http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-AN-x-3-Long-Vibrant-Universal-Turbo-Oil-Feed-Kit-w-PTFE-Lined-Hose-10271-/121206241231?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c387477cf&vxp=mtr
oil feed fittings. I recommend installing an oil pressure gauge. People will say run a brass fitting in the block which is a no no. You want to run a line off the back of the block, where you can use a brass multi port fitting, make sure you secure this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-AN-Male-To-1-8-NPT-Zinc-Coated-Steel-Fitting-Brake-Caliper-Hose-/390794089826?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5afd249562&vxp=mtr
you will also need an oil restrictor or depending on the turbo. I see them for 13$ shipped on ebay

weld to pan
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-1-2-Merchant-Coupling-NPT-Bung-Mild-Steel-Oil-Tank-Bobber-Chopper-Harley-O2-/200702089889?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebac6daa1&vxp=mtr

1x http://www.ebay.com/itm/Billet-Alumimum-Turbo-Oil-Return-Flange-5-8-3-4-Barb-Garrett-T3-T4-T04B-T04E-/380854966891?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58acb99a6b&vxp=mtr
^ if you buy this, i can give you a fitting i bought and never used. its 1/2npt 3/4" barb, which will match the fitting above and the bung for your oil pan.

honestly, I think you could hit 400whp with a stock block. people have hit 500+whp on stock b16s and gsrs. You could easily hit near 400whp with this setup, only thing needed will be bigger injectors. think of this too. Adding rods and pistons alone in my opinion won't be a major benefit, because the sleeves are still weak ($1200 for sleeves alone). Yes forged rods will will give piece at mind, but there are plenty of people hitting 350-400whp with stock rods.

I forgot one more thing for a turbo setup.. map sensor. stock map sensors only read up to 11-12psi. Plan to spend 100 on a omni 4 bar map sensor. this is plug and play.

There are plenty of people who have pushed stock vtec motors and had them last, it depends on how you maintain them, and how you use it.

like other said, 30-40 miles is not far. Hell, my tuner is 5 miles away, if that