I looking to upgrade from my Denso 720's injectors. Running 105% duty cycle at 15psi of boost and 60psi fuel, and I was looking around and found these Bosch injectors part#0280150846. They are said to be a Ford injectors? Will 1600cc injectors work on a daily driven car being tuned with Hondata s200... and how much will I have to modify to make these work? I know it will have to idle high but the car is idling at 1000 now. Thanks for any info

 

this is a joke right I dont know of many people that would run 1600cc injectors on a DD car....

who is tuning your car?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a joke right I dont know of many people that would run 1600cc injectors on a DD car....

who is tuning your car? </TD></TR></TABLE>
its not that bad is it?

 

The only way to run 1600cc injectors on a DD would be if GOD was his tuner. haha just playin

 

how much power are you making at 15psi to max out the 720s? why not 1000s?

 

No it is not a joke. I will be tuning it myself! Just like I did when I built it in 2002. I didn't want to replace the injectors twice for when I upgrade the turbo and tune car for E85. The E85 will come first but I need new injectors now. Well if you can't DD 1600's what kind of power will 1000's handle?

 

Made close to 400whp on a mustang dyno in 2003. Never been back to the dyno so I don't know what it makes now with a couple of parts changed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dc2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only way to run 1600cc injectors on a DD would be if GOD was his tuner. haha just playin</TD></TR></TABLE>

Last I heard god lived in the trailerpark.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gdh8su &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No it is not a joke. I will be tuning it myself! Just like I did when I built it in 2002. I didn't want to replace the injectors twice for when I upgrade the turbo and tune car for E85. The E85 will come first but I need new injectors now. Well if you can't DD 1600's what kind of power will 1000's handle?</TD></TR></TABLE>600/625 whp

 

i'd also like to hear from anyone that has experience with these injectors. how would these injectors compare to some real aftermarket 1600cc injectors, (such as Precision)??? Also is a resistor box out of the question when using injectors this large?? or is it mandatory to get an injector driver&gt;??

 

I run 1600 precision injectors on the street with just a resistor box on e85. No problems daily driving here.

 

From the looks of things Precision uses Bosch injectors for the 1600's. I found these things for $259 NEW in box flow matched to 1%... and no it was not on ebay! From what I get it helps to use a injector driver but not needed.

 

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What kind of mileage you getting and setup/power?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gdh8su &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From the looks of things Precision uses Bosch injectors for the 1600's. I found these things for $259 NEW in box flow matched to 1%... and no it was not on ebay! From what I get it helps to use a injector driver but not needed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where did you find them flowmatched at that price?

I have tuned a handful of ethanol cars with the ford motorsports 160lb/hr injectors successfully idling at 1500 with the AEM EMS and no injector driver.... I have heard of others having big problems with idle and parital throttle driveability, but I personally haven't seen that yet.

1000cc injectors with e85 and no pnh injector driver will support ~520whp assuming the fuel pump is not the weak link. I have hit that limit on a couple cars so far.

If you want to make big power on e85, you'll want 1600+cc injectors with a peak and hold injector driver. A walbro pump won't cut it for flow though...

 

I found them at http://www.fiveomotorsport.com. It said mfg guarantees 1-2% and I talked to a person there and she said that they batch test and if they are not within that 1-2 area they get tossed. If its true I don't know! I want to do this next year when I get medical bills payed off.I am going to do a inline pump or twin intanks with -10 or-8 feed with -6 or -8 return. But I need some injectors now and want to run them on pump! Did you have to mod to get them fit?

 

1600cc injectors on the street is a bad idea my car doesnt ideal below 1700rpms with them anything lower and the car will die

 

Thanks for that info. I can handle 1200 but damn 1700 that would drive me nuts! I quess I might get the 1000's for now and then sell them when I do the E85.

 

Since most disc and ball style injectors (bosch and rochester/seimens) can handle lots of fuel pressure, I'd suggest going with the 1k's and maybe a synapse FPR running 2:1, maybe even 3:1. That way you could set idle at 30psi or something to make idle easier to tune, and still run big power.

What size turbo do you have? 105% on 720;s would put you near or over 500whp on a 'conventional' honda b18 setup, and 500whp from 15psi is one freaking tall order. Either you have a leak in the fuel line or something odd, or you have enough time to read a book before your turbo spools due to size...

 

The 105 is what crapdata is saying... which I want to sell and go with something new. No leaks in fuel system checked when replace the 6 year old 255 for the piece of mind thing. It still gets 25mpg mostly city and running the **** out of it!The close to 400whp on a mustang would be how much on a dynojet?I'm starting to hate this thing!!!!!!!