Boosting the R
#1
Boosting the R
after a couple weeks of thinking and looking over my B18C5 i have decided to throw some money into it AND the EM1 the its sitting in. I have a budget of about $3500-4000. the EM1 needs some work, i am going to be doing ALL bushings, cambers, Bars, etc to the car (already have coilovers) my question is what to do with the motor? i would like to push about 325-350+ out of it, what are the opinions on boosting and what should be done prior. thanks
#3
DO IT ON ALL FOURS
Re: Boosting the R
You ignored our advice before, give a compelling answer why we should invest more time?
NOTHING needs to be done if you want to boost it at that power level. You could have found that much out from reading the FAQs and looking at the all the "Boosting a Type R" threads already in existence. Good Luck!
NOTHING needs to be done if you want to boost it at that power level. You could have found that much out from reading the FAQs and looking at the all the "Boosting a Type R" threads already in existence. Good Luck!
#4
Re: Boosting the R
Not that im ignoring any advice, which i do appreciate and was very good advice. The reason ive decided to do the R is because of the money i will need to invest in the shell and motor wont leave much of a budget for the GSR.
#6
I never narc'd on nobody!
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Re: Boosting the R
"It's very good advice, I've just decided to completely disregard it. I'm not ignoring it, though!" Everyone said "build the GSR, leave the Type R alone". You're now talking about doing exactly the opposite. How are you not ignoring everyone's advice?
$3500-$4k is enough to boost one of the motors. That's pretty much it. Depending on how you do it, you'll have money left over, but not enough to really build either motor. Maybe some valvetrain work, but nothing where it matters - in the block. Decent pistons will run you $500-$600. Rods, another $300-$350. Machine work? There goes another $200 bare minimum, if you do all of the assembly yourself. Another $100+ for bearings. Gaskets, there's another $150+. Head studs? Another $150.
You're now in $1400 just for the bottom end in hardware alone, assuming you do the assembly yourself. That's not counting tools you might not have, nor lube you probably don't have. That leaves your $3500 budget with only $2100 left to boost. A good turbo will run you a grand of that. Down to $1100. Intercooler and piping? There's another $150, bare minimum. Down to $950. Clutch kit? There goes another $400. Down to $550. Injectors? Another $400. Down to $150. Tune, and related things there? $500.
Now, assuming you've found deals on everything, you're in the hole for $350, capable of making 400 safely, up a creek without a paddle if anything goes wrong, oh, and you've changed one of the biggest aspects that makes a Type R different from a GSR - the compression.
So, if you're going to spend all of this money, and put in all of this work, why would you do it to the Type R, completely ruining the inherent value of the motor, when you could do it to the GSR, for literally the same amount of money, and get near as makes no difference the same performance?
$3500-$4k is enough to boost one of the motors. That's pretty much it. Depending on how you do it, you'll have money left over, but not enough to really build either motor. Maybe some valvetrain work, but nothing where it matters - in the block. Decent pistons will run you $500-$600. Rods, another $300-$350. Machine work? There goes another $200 bare minimum, if you do all of the assembly yourself. Another $100+ for bearings. Gaskets, there's another $150+. Head studs? Another $150.
You're now in $1400 just for the bottom end in hardware alone, assuming you do the assembly yourself. That's not counting tools you might not have, nor lube you probably don't have. That leaves your $3500 budget with only $2100 left to boost. A good turbo will run you a grand of that. Down to $1100. Intercooler and piping? There's another $150, bare minimum. Down to $950. Clutch kit? There goes another $400. Down to $550. Injectors? Another $400. Down to $150. Tune, and related things there? $500.
Now, assuming you've found deals on everything, you're in the hole for $350, capable of making 400 safely, up a creek without a paddle if anything goes wrong, oh, and you've changed one of the biggest aspects that makes a Type R different from a GSR - the compression.
So, if you're going to spend all of this money, and put in all of this work, why would you do it to the Type R, completely ruining the inherent value of the motor, when you could do it to the GSR, for literally the same amount of money, and get near as makes no difference the same performance?
#7
Honda-Tech Member
Re: Boosting the R
I have boosted a perfectly good freshly rebuilt stock B18CR and I will pass on what I learned.
Don't do it! Fan boys will still pay out the *** for a good type R. Sell the Type R, buy a clapped out GSR that needs a rebuild and go from there. You will be way ahead.
Don't do it! Fan boys will still pay out the *** for a good type R. Sell the Type R, buy a clapped out GSR that needs a rebuild and go from there. You will be way ahead.
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