blu2ksi

im going to pullthe head off the b16 soon to install some goodies and one of my buddies reccomended i should install a blockguard also. Will i be needing this for 10psi max. I am running a completely stock block. if so is the install easy? can you do it with the block in the car? and prices will help

genop

Unless you are taking it to a machine shop where they can install it correctly dont bother. No one has really proved to me that block guards installed improperly will cause problems, but why do you want to take that chance....

TravSi

Nay...you wont need a block guard for 10psi i run that on a d series on stock sleeves, stock sleeves will work fine that piece of metal will probablly cause you nothing but headaches down the road....but i bet you wont be 10psi max in the near future (power is addicting)...even raising the boost you still wont need a block guard save your money and buy a good fuel mgt system or wide band or something that you can fine tune the motor and your set...

ekb18c

You don't need a block guard for your application.


When it's time to for more power, I would go and get some sleeves from Vince @ Golden Eagle.

hypa

So much bad talk about the block guard.....

Do you people remember 5 years ago whern the block guard (and the highly expensive AEBS) were our only options?


Anyway, a block guard will ensure your sleeves will not shift or crack at the top, but as others have said, they must be put in properly. We usually take about 2 hours properly filing and testing before I'm confident enough to torque on a head. Bottom line?

A good block guard is cheap insurance.
Your HG will thank you too.

RyanEJ8

yay!

ekb18c

a) That was fives years ago. A lot has changed since then.
b) He doesn't need a block guard for his particular application because he's not boosting high.

hypa

My point is that why build for a low boost application, then regret it when he wants to turn it up? For the $80 they're worth, why not just do it now?

And what has changed?
More people are offering sleeves is what's changed.
But sleeves are still an expensive proposition for most people. The motors are the same, and 5 years ago, when the big guys were hitting 11's, they did it with block guards. Where I come from, that's pretty damn fast.

When it's time for him to boost higher, he'll have an added measure of protection.

ekb18c

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Exactly! Why build for a low boost application?? Why waste money on a block guard? Leave it STOCK, until he's ready for high boost application.

I'm not arguing with you about the effectiveness of a block guard, I'm saying why put it in when he doesn't need it?

hypa

fair enough.


Chances are a piston will melt before a sleeve anyway. But dammit, block guards are a good investment (for someone who is still using stock sleeves ).

RyanEJ8

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Exactly! Why build for a low boost application?? Why waste money on a block guard? Leave it STOCK, until he's ready for high boost application.

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Because stock sleeves and blockguard have been known to hold reliable 400-500whp. Ask Matt Patrick.

integranator

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My point is that why build for a low boost application, then regret it when he wants to turn it up? For the $80 they're worth, why not just do it now?

And what has changed?
More people are offering sleeves is what's changed.
But sleeves are still an expensive proposition for most people. The motors are the same, and 5 years ago, when the big guys were hitting 11's, they did it with block guards. Where I come from, that's pretty damn fast.

When it's time for him to boost higher, he'll have an added measure of protection.
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Blueprint

For $80 it wouldnt hurt. Boost does crack blocks.